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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Sep 12, 2013 - 10:39am PT
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Putin is a master politician. This article is really interesting for quite a few reasons.
Just one of which is he makes a great point about the importance of the UN and the risks of it becoming impotent and how that could destabilize the world.
Interesting that he carefully avoids the counterpoint such that those nations with veto power can cause the same problem when they shield other nations from proper repercussions. I'm not arguing for a strike on Syria. But Russia China and even the US have a habit of shielding their buddies egregious actions by Veto, (Israel anyone?)
Both issues have the ability of making the UN a laughingstock.
Anyway this is a very unusual move and it seems the issue is pretty darn more serious than even I thought if Putin feels the need to talk directly to us.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 12, 2013 - 11:14am PT
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Forrest B. gets it completely.
NYT stupid puppet news organization which only fools follow them.
NYT is no better then fox news.
Americans are so brainwashed ......
(only 1 in ten here have a brain)
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Cragar
Trad climber
MSLA - MT
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Sep 12, 2013 - 11:23am PT
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Americans have a hard time with humility. Americans have brains, unfortunately most feel they are superior to others. It is plain as day in this culture of IchMoi!
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pc
climber
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Sep 12, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
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Interesting points Forrest.
I wouldn't be so naïve though to think that Putin's control of industry and moves around these issues in general are for "good".
Take a look at recent findings around his net worth for ulterior motives.
It's a darn tough thing to balance democracy with free enterprise while trying to be a good citizen of the world.
We don't have it right. Putin certainly doesn't have it right.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Sep 12, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
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Putin has his own reasons for interjecting himself into our self-created quandary, and exactly zero of those reasons have anything to do with looking out for the best interests the Syrian people - or the Russian people, for that matter.
Same can be said for Obama, and the best interests of the American people.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Sep 12, 2013 - 12:37pm PT
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F*#k Puteeen.
Like that KGB nozzle has great concern and pretends to lecture us on our national interests.
F*#k Puteeen.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Sep 12, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
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I totally agree Forest B..... but.... I somehow doubt the former head of the KGB has any altruistic motives in mind.
But there is no comparison of Putin vs. the recent four terms of idiot puppets in the USSA. Two terms of someone too stupid to even read a teleprompter and the darker version of the same puppet who they've at least taught to read, but little else.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 12, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
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Yes these modern stupid American zombies and their bullsh!t lying news medias are a disgrace to humanity on this planet .....
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Sep 12, 2013 - 02:49pm PT
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Nothing scare me more than the fact democrats and republicans suddenly banned together to attack syria. Really? They can't agree on anything, but they can come together at the drop of the hat for this??
If you are a republican or democrat, you are a moron.
Lets rid our country of these f*#ks!!! They are destroying us!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Sep 12, 2013 - 04:15pm PT
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So then the back room deals between Baron Von Shteckinme and the AustroHungarian Empire have come to pass?
Does that mean that the Oslo accord is nullified by the Camp David II treaty?
Holy f*#k, Klimmer is right.
Buy all the bullets you can. Wait, the talking monkey already bought them all.
The Zionist pigs in Benghazi killed the Arab spring in Tunisia, yeah, that's right, Tunisia mutherf*#ks.
Sh#t, stoopid amuriccans can't even see that the Khumsnow secret police in Turkey are controlling the whole thing. If you people would just do a little research into the division of Palestine after the 1927 World Cup it would all become so clear.
Why do we keep waiting for the Ethiopian uprising of 2019 before we see the obvious link between Belgium, blood diamonds and the second coming of L. Ron Hoover, who will lead us all to the real evidence from the Belgrade bombing that so clearly shows us that the Dali Lama was Salvador Dali's secret lover?
Gawd, you people are so stupid you can't even read the plain spray paint on the wall.....
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Sep 12, 2013 - 04:54pm PT
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Quote from upthread: " Debt is our Tyrant"
We are letting them do it to us. Ergo, we are doing it to ourselves. Does anyone think the Fed (which is a group of private bankers) would buy close to $3 trillion dollars of US debt due to altrusim? Or that we will not have to repay that at some point. The fed charter guarantees them 5% return, does everyone here know what that totals or what it means to them? I would bet that few us us do.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Sep 12, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
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I wonder if Putin is a good chess player
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Sep 12, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
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(only 1 in ten here have a brain)
If I only had a brain. Time to find Dorothy and seek the wizard of OZ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nauLgZISozs
edit: rough day at work; needed some levity
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sep 12, 2013 - 10:53pm PT
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The most effective thing that the US could be doing now is an intense refugee relief effort in Syria, Turkey and Jordan.
The Islamists beat us to it.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Sep 12, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
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F*#k Puteeen.
Like that KGB nozzle has great concern and pretends to lecture us on our national interests.
F*#k Puteeen.
maybe puteen is a conniving, lieing and brutal SOB but he is making our elected officials look like stupid ass holes and the points he brings up in his OPED are some of the same that obama used to get elected the first time.
clearly, you are not an exceptional dude and its dangerous for you to think you are....read his OPED and you will understand.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 12, 2013 - 11:36pm PT
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I like this "New Putinator" ...... :-)
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