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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 24, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
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Thanks for the update, Chief Watson!
And thanks to Cragman for going out again. I hope you're not going alone. Please stay safe!
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 08:29pm PT
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Thank you Chief Dan! @ Cragman, I don't know what to say. I have a herniated disk in my c7, I know the pain it causes and for you to go out there with an injured c5 speaks so much to your strength and character. "If I have seen bigger men, it was only because I was standing on the shoulders of giants" -Ron
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
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I will have the compiled document done in about 2 more hours. The first draft is in MS Word (google doc is not user friendly). Once I get feedback/corrections I can convert over to google docs.
If anyone wants this document feel free to send me a PM. I will post to the forum when the first draft is ready.
Thx
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x1n54n3x
Boulder climber
mammoth lakes
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Aug 24, 2013 - 09:46pm PT
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Well, I was going to say I haven't heard back from that email yet, but Dan has just confirmed that they have the info I sent and are working on it. I'm headed out of town tomorrow afternoon, but I'll be on here pretty regularly.
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 09:51pm PT
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Side note: finally managed some national news coverage (AP, ABC, MSN, FOX, with others on the horizon). Hopefully someone will come forward that talked to Matt and can help provide more leads.
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
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I debated posting this, worried it'd be construed wrong, but decided to. When searching Matt's house, there was a notebook. Amongst it were some half scribbled notes that were started but not finished (with the exception of one I found regarding a guide book exchange; found both draft and full letter on that one.)
This one is straightforward. What I don't know is his habits with this note. Still, in my mind, it seems important he's thought it out if nothing else. I see it as something he'd leave on/in his car or campsite if planning something long and/or dangerous.
Just more speculation, I know, but I felt compelled to share.
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Crazy Bat
Sport climber
Birmingham, AL & Seweanee, TN
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
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I am nearsighted in one eye and farsighted in the other. Because of that I now know that correction of nearsightedness causes items seen through the lens to appear smaller. I sure looks like those glasses are for nearsightedness. Look at the thumb on the left.
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
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All,
I have completed a document that contains the following:
-PICTURES
-PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION & GEAR/EQUIPMENT
-MATTS KNOWN HABITS & PERSONAL CHARACTERISTICS
-EXPERIENCE
-CHRONOLOGICAL TIMELINE
-ADDITIONAL FACTS/INFORMATION
-OPEN ISSUES / ITEMS THAT NEED IMMEDIATE ATTENTION
I culled the information for this document from the 800+ posts on this forum. I did my best to correct items when Matt's family/friends provided clarifications.
I am working on the second portion of the document. This portion will contain a listing of local points of interest (trails etc..) and the peaks, passes and trails from the pages Matt took out of the secor book. Then within this information if we know certain areas were searched, registers signed or not signed etc...I will put that information in as well (and also list areas Matt previously visited). This part of the document is going to take me a little bit of time as I am struggling with the best way to organize the information so it is easy to read, understand and update.
I currently have the document in MS Word 2007. I can also create it in a PDF. IF you would like a copy of this document please send me a PM. Once I have completed the document I am going to try to convert it to a google doc so we can crowd source the updates (google docs is not as user friendly as MS Word). Until then you can PM me any changes/clarifications/ommissions etc.... Also feel free to suggest changes (I have thick skin and wont be offended).
Tx and godspeed to cragman and his companion tomorrow
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:52pm PT
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Question to Matt's Family/Friends:
Do you know the model and brand of the ice axe and crampons he had (assumed using based on the fact that the items were missing from his car and campsite)?
Please let me know so I can add the information to the timeline document.
Thx
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:54pm PT
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Splitpants - Definitely save as a PDF (keep a copy as Word for you so you can edit and update easily). Pretty much anyone will be able to view it. No worries about compatibility with the document program or OS.
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Todd Quinn
Trad climber
Oceanside, CA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:58pm PT
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Great find on the belt, Looking at the details is what it's all about. I try to look for details in the pages Matt ripped out of his guide book, The High Sierra third edition by R.J. Secor. I understand he took out chapter 12 right out of the book. Please correct me if am wrong if any one has better facts my intention is not to mislead. But we all climb here and we all have to put together the information before we start a climb. R.J. Secor wrote about Mount Ritter with excitement and the sequences of trails start and end in the pages taken. Ice axes and crampons are mention as required gear. Furthermore, the gear he selected suggest he was out for day. The Mountain Hardware pack SoCo model 70 litter is completely interchangeable you can take off the top and hip belt. The side has the best compression straps. The pack has no reflective qualities to it. So Matt loaded the bag for speed he had room to bring other gear. All suggest his destination was a day hike away.
I keep profiling Matt as a climber from PA not someone who knows everything about the area. What would help me is to determine where he started? Match the start location to the pages taken out of the book, only assume day hike no further. Matt would have had to factor the walk back into town. The area leading back from where he started interest me. Mainly because it would have been dark. Keep charging everyone!
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 11:59pm PT
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Srbphoto
Thanks will do!
Definitely save as a PDF (keep a copy as Word for you so you can edit and update easily). Pretty much anyone will be able to view it. No worries about compatibility with the document program or OS.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Aug 25, 2013 - 12:11am PT
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WOW, I just went over to Yahoo and the first thing that pops up is Matt's picture and it's the first story on their list. I know someone mentioned this up thread but it kind of shocked me looking into his eyes (and I have never met him).
This will really help bring attention to people who were in the area but are not climbers.
To everyone in the field searching - stay safe and good luck.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Aug 25, 2013 - 12:20am PT
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R.J. Secor wrote about Mount Ritter with excitement and the sequences of trails start and end in the pages taken. Ice axes and crampons are mention as required gear. Furthermore, the gear he selected suggest he was out for day. Someone not relying on the shuttlebus could drive thier car into the area pre-dawn or whatever (not in his case) to do Ritter etc in a day, but even that is fairly rare. Most ascents include a convenient bivy @ Ediza or Catherine Lakes.
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KellyDoesntClimb
Social climber
Dunwoody, GA
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Aug 25, 2013 - 12:39am PT
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Looking forward to the document. Feel free to use my map if you want! I can change it to be fully public but then you'd potentially get people screwing around with edits. Control issues anyone?
Wouldn't he have started the day of July 17 at the campground? Perhaps at 3am when his phone was turned on for a moment?
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Aug 25, 2013 - 12:49am PT
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MGuzzy - I do not work for Rite Aid. I apologize if my post mislead you. I do work for a major retailer so I was voicing frustration over looking up a transaction. I cannot believe it takes this long. Unfortunately, the only person I knew who worked for them no longer does. I have put out the word to my retail connections to see if anyone knows someone who works for them and can help.
Trust me, if I did work for them I would have been on the phone to the GM, DM or anyone else to get any info possible.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Aug 25, 2013 - 12:53am PT
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Wouldn't he have started the day of July 17 at the campground? Perhaps at 3am when his phone was turned on for a moment? No way he hiked up and in from Shady Rest (rediculous amount of miles/ elevation gain and loss to even get close to the approach).
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Aug 25, 2013 - 01:08am PT
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That doesn't sound good having found the glasses (if they are indeed Matt's) where they are. An isolated location but very near town.
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Aug 25, 2013 - 01:20am PT
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I think the police have been saying this for some time. So, not necessarily made after the discovery of the glasses. Still, I haven't heard much substantiating evidence to support this, except the mention of Mt. Lyell as a climbing goal. Mt. Lyell is normally approached from Tuolumne Meadows.
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