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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 24, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
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A couple of days ago there was discussion about why Verizon can't give you the location of Matt's cellphone when he sent a text message.
I was skeptical that this couldn't be done so asked a friend of mine who's a top level engineer at the company that makes most of the cell phone communications chips.
He had to ask a colleague and here is the response:
Hmm – Difficult to say. Verizon are a very savvy company, so I have to assume that this limitation is real Basically, at the technical implementation level, it's an optional part of the standard. e.g. Verizon could optionally implement this feature in their hardware/software, but likely haven't.
He followed this up with a good technical explanation of why this is so.
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 24, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
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Ron, I'm not local so I don't know the answers to your questions. Nor do I know which of you is “Find Matthew Greene” on FB (you and Tiffany?) or who in your core group is in Mammoth.
But I notice that last night, at the end of the top FB thread under the “Texas Roadhouse” flyer post, Police Chief Dan Watson said that “Find Matthew Greene” should call him about the glasses -- he gave his phone number and everything. Was that done?
It does seem to me that "reading" that prescription is a first step, and if y'all haven't called him yet, his asking you to do so would provide a perfect opening to ask him whether (assuming the police haven't had the prescription read already), people in the area can help get that done.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Aug 24, 2013 - 05:22pm PT
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As someone who wears them, I can say no one wants to part with Rx glasses, ever. You lose a pair occasionally switching to sunglasses, but in those instances you usually lose them in a case. Losing Rx glasses out of the case? Highly unusual I should think.
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x1n54n3x
Boulder climber
mammoth lakes
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Aug 24, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
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Officer Hugelman requested that I send him the images I took upon discovering the glasses- here is a copy of the email I just sent him:
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Hello- I was the individual who found what many believe are the potential glasses belonging to missing person, Matthew Greene. I've attached the photos I took upon discovery, as requested.
I would like to direct you, as well as Detective Hornbeck to a page in the SuperTopo Climbing forum- here you can find Matt's prescription details, and perhaps see if the glasses I found are similar or match.
Here is a copy/paste of the post from Ron, Matt's brother in law:
Aug 24, 2013 - 06:57am PT
Here's Matt's eye RXs from 2-1-13
Glasses:
OD - 2.75 - 0.75 x 175
OS - 2.75 - 1.00 x 005
Contacts:
OD - 8.6 / 14.5 - 2.50 - 0.75 x 180
OS - 8.6 / 14.5 - 2.50 - 1.25 x 180
Acuvue Oasys for Astigmatism
Hope that means something; my eyes are good so it's Greek to me.
Let me know if there is anything else you need from me.
Thanks,
Alex Xxxxxx
xxx-xxx-xxxx
"
Essentially I've relayed Matt's Rx info, hoping to expedite that process. We'll see what comes of it.
@Cragman, thanks, I'm interested to know.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Aug 24, 2013 - 05:47pm PT
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Is the Google map ^above^ with location pins and the blue pin for found (Matt's?) glasses located by Alex?
If not could Alex put a pin on the map exactly where he came upon the glasses? You can use the satellite view button and zoom in up-close to pin-point the location. I think that would help a great deal.
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x1n54n3x
Boulder climber
mammoth lakes
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Aug 24, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
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I added the EXACT location of where I found the glasses.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Aug 24, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
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Alex thanks :-)
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
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Ok, so we have a belt and a very high probability of Matt's glasses found. Clearly, we are on to something. If we are going to find our " needle, " this is the best we got. You guys have come so far, done so much, lets finish this and the beers are on me! -Ron
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 24, 2013 - 06:43pm PT
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Ron, not to be a nudge, but have you or others in your core group been able to get back to Chief Watson or to ask others in the police station about testing the prescription of the glasses that Alex found? I know Alex sent the prescription to Officer Hugelman, but some follow-up might help move things along.
Regarding the belt, does such a belt strike you or others as something Matt might have? I gather that climbers wear racks -- not sure what they're made of but they don't look like regular belts. And in any event most of Matt's climbing stuff was back with the camping gear. Not sure what sort of belt people wear when they're going hiking in snow/ice. (ETA, I'm told a climber's rack isn't like a belt at all...)
As for hikers, when we wear belts at all, we tend to favor nylon belts with plastic buckles, so as not to weigh us down or interfere with our packs. A thick belt + a pack can be very irritating. So maybe the belt belongs to someone else?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Aug 24, 2013 - 06:52pm PT
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Alex,
Are the glasses just really dusty/dirty? Are they heavily scratched up?
I don't know, but if they are Matt's, and they just fell out of a pack or accidentally dropped to the ground without him noticing, why are they so messy looking? I know its been more than a month since he went missing.
If someone found them close to the time he went missing, then they've been hanging on the trail sign for a month or more? Or did the glasses just recently show up? Doesn't the FS Rangers drive the roads and occasionally check the trail-heads? How long have those glasses been hanging there? Has someone recently hiked the same trail within the last few days besides Alex? A week ago? 2 weeks ago? And so on. Were the glasses still hanging there then at the trail-head?
Maybe talking to the FS office/visitor center there in Mammoth might help. Maybe people have noticed that the glasses have been hanging there a while or not?
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 06:53pm PT
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I tried calling and left a vm. It says their office hours are Monday to Friday. My only option is to call 911 and I don't want to do that - Ron
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 24, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
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Ron, that makes sense. Did you call the number that Chief Watson left in the Facebook post -- was that where you left the VM?
10b4me, thanks for the clarification. Are climbers also not usually into regular belts, or is that just us hikers?
Cragman -- your son has sharp eyes...
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Aug 24, 2013 - 07:07pm PT
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Good instincts on your sons part Dean, but judging by the age/ style of belt, it seems unlikely to be relevant.
Strong work, and sharp eyes though!
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Aug 24, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
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If that were the case CC's would most likely have been used by now, IMO. He had a wallet with him, right?
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Aug 24, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
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this lake doesn't appear so large and deep as in the earlier photo...searching it should not require the sort of resources i mentioned above
we can still provide help on this if needed
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Aug 24, 2013 - 07:33pm PT
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I understand that there are bad people everywhere, and a lot of sketch balls fall off the face of the earth on the eastside. I remember that you've had firsthand experience with sketchy people who you trusted.
That said, the criminal element seems highly unlikely to me. It doesn't hurt to cover all the bases though.
I'm hoping for a timely resolution. People need closure, and it breaks my heart that they don't have that yet.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Aug 24, 2013 - 07:41pm PT
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If I weren't on the east coast I'd be there to join you in a heartbeat. Good luck.
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Dan Watson
climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Aug 24, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
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I've compared the glasses to the close up of the photo of Matt wearing the glasses. They are similar, but do not look the same. But as others have commented, he may have had more than one similar pair. The glasses are dirty and one lense is scratched. We have not located the person who found them and placed them on the trail marker at Inyo Craters. Now that we have the prescription, we will work on getting the glasses inspected to see if they are the same or similar. This might take until Monday if or local hospital doesn't have the ability to do so. Once that information is known, we'll have a better idea whether these were his glasses. Mono SAR is current on all the latest information and is monitoring this thread regularly.
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