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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Jan 17, 2014 - 07:13pm PT
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mongrel
Where is my beer?
(edit) I found you one short of a full set so I expect most of a case....
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PeterC
Trad climber
CA
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Jan 17, 2014 - 08:17pm PT
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So I've also seen pics of them sticking in sketchy placements and heard people raving about them, but what differences in their design lead to more solid placements?
Thanks,
Peter
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MisterE
climber
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Jan 17, 2014 - 08:38pm PT
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Peter, The cam lobes are elongated, for one thing. They seem to snap into placements solidly, and in a different way than other cams. Also, the stems are large and comfortable, making for ease of use. The wire stem/trigger set-up is beefy, flexible and lightweight.
Additionally, they place in flares and weird placements better than any other cam I have used. With the smaller cams, the stem is bulky and the cam lobes small - they fit into the rack well without making it seem larger because of this.
Erik
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overwatch
climber
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Jan 17, 2014 - 09:36pm PT
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totally agree they are the state of the art design in my opinion. wish I had more than just 2
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Jan 17, 2014 - 10:12pm PT
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Here are a few videos to look at Peter
http://www.youtube.com/user/mapeze/videos
The cables go from lobe to lobe and one set of lobes act fairly independent of the other set of lobes, In flaring placements they are the bomb. Love my Totems.
I sold one of my sets to Ben Doyle not cause I really wanted to, but I thought he should have em. Now I am down a set. I still have triples of the smaller sizes though. And I got the Blue/green offset Basics. SWEEEET!
Plaid
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PeterC
Trad climber
CA
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Jan 18, 2014 - 12:16am PT
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Cool, thanks MisterE and Plaidman! I think this video in particular explains why they're so awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrn_CUEkE20 . It seems like they have a different cam angle which works better in bombay placements, they have extremely floppy stems so you avoid levering out and keep the force on the cam head, and they have ~independent left and right pairs of lobes so they work well in flares and even in shallow placements where you only get 2 lobes in. And some other stuff I didn't understand. But in any case I'm sold... now if I could just find a set... and find the $ for a set... hmmm.
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cali kat
climber
CA
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Jan 19, 2014 - 08:08pm PT
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The Gear Co-Op in SoCal has them, although selection appears limited at the time. Also online at http://www.gearcoop.com/
I'd give them a call to see when they'll get more sizes.
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Rexi
climber
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Mar 23, 2018 - 11:51am PT
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A little follow up on this thread. Any shops in the us with the Totems now? I was going to order a full set from backcountry but only have two sizes. I´ve also been looking online and selection seems to be very limited. I Will be in the US for a short stop in april and was thinking about trying to get them then if I can find them anywhere.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Mar 23, 2018 - 04:43pm PT
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Planet Granite in Sunnyvale has full sets blue to red, but no small ones.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Mar 23, 2018 - 10:11pm PT
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^^ Adding different quantities to the shopping cart, it appears they have 10 black Totems in stock - more than anywhere in N America.
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Rexi
climber
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Mar 31, 2018 - 02:48am PT
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Thanks for the info!
I found a set in Planet granite. Looking forward to getting my hands on them :) also getting a set of BD ultralights so lots of new stuff coming my way :)
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