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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 5, 2013 - 04:34pm PT
My disagreement isn't at issue here. I don't equate nationalism to religion. I did when I was younger, without realizing it. For me its not a religion. I'm pretty sure that for you, it is.

Which of those do YOU disagree with?

DMT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 5, 2013 - 04:36pm PT
what DO YOU believe in dingus,, NOTHING?
drewsky

climber
Seattle
Jul 5, 2013 - 04:41pm PT
Well, the first half of the thread had at least a few good points and almost bordered on a discussion. The second half is dominated by the reptilian-brained rhetoric of the bigots. If only there was a way to cleave the thread in twain, then the 'conjoined twin' thread (more like a benign yet ugly tumor) could continue wherein Ron and Bluering talk about how America is, in fact, their favorite country...by themselves.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 5, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
Hmmmm

1. I think the notion of Original Intent is ludicrous. America can, has, does and will continue to - redefine itself, its government, its morality, its culture and its policital will and identity. Original intent is stupid beyond all reckoning.

2. America is neither good nor bad.

3. There are no just wars. Behind the scenes, greedy ruthless people are using nationalism and patriotism for personal gain, EVERY TIME.

4. If America detains and tortures people America is committing a great evil in the world. No just nation does this as a matter of State policy.

5. There is NO PLACE for religion anywhere in our government. I don't include manger scenes or crosses up on hills as a particularly important component of that - I'm ok with them but know it opens the door to other religions insisting on displays too.

6. Capitalism is not a form of government, its not holy nor is it inherently good. Communism isn't inherently bad. In boith economic systems, ruthless sonsabitches manipulate things to their advantage at a cost to the greater population.

7. The flag is not a holy relic.

8. I will not swear to god under any circumstances, ever.

9. The freedom of the individual is the measuring stick by which freedom itself is measured.

10. if you are FOR a war, you go FIGHT THE WAR, personally.

11. Corporations aren't people and aren't individuals and should be prohibited from any poloitical contribution any kind. Unions too. Only individuals should be permitted to donate to political causes, no PACs either.

DMT
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 5, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
^^^ Drewsky, S.O.P. for the life cycle of threads like these.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 5, 2013 - 04:50pm PT
By threads like these you mean the ones with antagonistic troll thread titles?

DMT
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 5, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
Yes DMT. And I concur with your 11 point post above.




'ceptin' i gotsa no iffn i kin ketch thet homasexural diseaz by bellyain a prancer?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 5, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
My disagreement isn't at issue here. I don't equate nationalism to religion. I did when I was younger, without realizing it. For me its not a religion. I'm pretty sure that for you, it is.

Which of those do YOU disagree with?

DMT


I disagree with none of them. And neither would the "old crusty white guys' who founded this country.

They specifically attributed the goodwill and virtue of men to religion and faith.

You don't have to though, but don't deny their thoughts.

Lisa summed it up well here, in the words of our Founders;
http://spectator.org/archives/2013/07/03/self-evident-truth

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 5, 2013 - 05:06pm PT
Original intent is stupid beyond all reckoning.


DMT
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 5, 2013 - 05:08pm PT
They were wise, those crusty old white guys...

[D]emocracy will soon degenerate into an anarchy, such an anarchy that every man will do what is right in his own eyes and no manís life or property or reputation or liberty will be secure, and every one of these will soon mould itself into a system of subordination of all the moral virtues and intellectual abilities, all the powers of wealth, beauty, wit and science, to the wanton pleasures, the capricious will and the execrable cruelty of one or a very few. (John Adams, An Essay on Manís Lust for Power)

No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders. (Samuel Adams to James Warren, 1775)

Is there no virtue among us? If there be not, we are in a wretched situation. No theoretical checks ó no form of government can render us secure. To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical idea. If there be sufficient virtue and intelligence in the community, it will be exercised in the selection of these men. So that we do not depend on their virtue, or put confidence in our rulers, but in the people who are to choose them. (James Madison, Virginia Ratifying Convention)

Wise beyond their time. Where did that timeless wisdom come from, where was it learned? The Bible.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 5, 2013 - 05:18pm PT
you ignorant fukwad
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 5, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
you ignorant fukwad


Nice reply, from someone who refuses to answer a simple question. What do you hold sacred?
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 5, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
My dick when I pee?


Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 5, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
You are ignorant fuktard blurring. What I hold sacred is between me and me... and no Greg, it is not your c*#k when you go pee.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 5, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
It's Greg :((((

edit
huh.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 5, 2013 - 05:30pm PT
hahaha... I went to school with a Gary Davis... and it weren't him.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 5, 2013 - 05:34pm PT
Dude can JAM!


bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 5, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
You are ignorant fuktard blurring. What I hold sacred is between me and me...

I can smell commies 2 miles away.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 5, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
and I can smell your pussy from here
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Jul 5, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
Wes, is there prospect that earning your doctrate might exalt posts infused with more substance and less insolence?

There's a glut of disrespect on ST, and has been for a long time. But your foul insults and lubricious name calling are way excessive.

Some institutions are wary of what their employees post online. Aren't you alert to the possibility of your department chair reading some of this hateful stuff and reflecting as to its potential effect on the university's prestige?
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