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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 24, 2013 - 07:32pm PT
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It's pretty lame that they don't race when the winds are too light, too strong,
or from the wrong direction. Course, that's kinda me climbing-wise so I'll shut up.
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 24, 2013 - 11:07pm PT
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Today's second match was mind boggling, and I'm quite confused about my loyalties.
Larry Ellison has to be a cosmic force of evil, but both crews and especially Spithill is as engaging and apparently good as ... I don't know what. Then there is that gut feeling that somehow Oracle is cheating.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Sep 24, 2013 - 11:21pm PT
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sh#t
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Sep 24, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
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If NZ loses, their syndicate may collapse. That would be sad, cuz they are the only ones who can challenge for the cup.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
California
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Sep 24, 2013 - 11:52pm PT
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How is the Flying Wasp doing?
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command error
Trad climber
Colorado
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Sep 25, 2013 - 12:43am PT
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Always be America's Cup no matter who wins.
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mcolombo
Trad climber
Heidelberg, Germany
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Sep 25, 2013 - 05:27am PT
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Team OR sure seem to have gotten there foil controls dialed. They seem to be better able to adjust mode to sitution and have mastered upwind foiling.
Still it seems the races are being won and lost on tactical decisions and avoiding mistakes and the boats are pretty well matched.
Sir Ben, Slingsby and Spithill appear to really click together. Listening to their onboard conversation is amazing.
Lots of respect to both teams! The Kiwis re no slouches.
Sure it is big money game but so what, that is what we have billionares for- so a bunch of poor blokes can sail cool boats.
I will keep to racing my Finn.
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Sep 25, 2013 - 08:56am PT
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I hope the kiwis can pull it off today!
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Nilepoc
Big Wall climber
Tx
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Sep 25, 2013 - 09:50am PT
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One week ago I gave up on Oracle. Here they are in a sudden death situation. I have never seen a more engaging cup race than this seasons. I want NZ to win because I hear their team will fold if they don't win but I really want the "underdog" (not really an underdog, but what a comeback) to win as well. What an amazing and well run race it has been. Whoever wins, I hope they keep the format similar. It is a very engaging sport with the foiling catamarans and the coarse layout. It would seem that some rule changes related to time and wind speeds should be considered but otherwise it has been so interesting that my wife is even watching it.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Sep 25, 2013 - 11:34am PT
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Go to America's Cup Virtual Eye and you will get a better perspective than TV and just as exciting or frustrating as it has been the past few races.
Kick ass NZ and stuff Larry and his "boys", please!
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Sep 25, 2013 - 04:48pm PT
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sh#t, BUMMER.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Sep 25, 2013 - 04:51pm PT
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Woohoooo!
Hopefully they drop the double-hull design and switch back to single-hull.
But, being Murican's (Lol, Aussies and Kiwi's) Being owned by Murican's They'll probably make it a six-hull boat next Cup.
I had the pleasure to watch it on 3 separate weekends, watched the LV cup between Italy and New Zealand, saw the epic race where the Kiwi's lost two guys overboard from dipping, and watched the Americans win the first race of the winning streak which took them to the lead.
[Sorry if my grammar sucks, I have to take a sh#t and the same dude has been holding up the stall for 3 hours. I hear fruit-ninja. F*#ker. ]
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mcolombo
Trad climber
Heidelberg, Germany
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Sep 25, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
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Sir Ben, Slingsby and Spithill take it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Donīt care whos paying the bills.
Why would anyone want Monoslugs back? And I am a mono sailer.
Well perhaps a foiling Mono like a giant Moth would be ok ;-)
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Sep 25, 2013 - 05:30pm PT
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Oracle just had too much boat speed and technology in the end.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Sep 25, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
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Oracle! Clutching victory from the jaws of defeat. How sweet it is!
Saw this hugely detailed history of how the 1st race almost never happened in England back in 1851.
http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924029947649/cu31924029947649_djvu.txt
The British yachtsmen took one look at the America and f^cking hid. No one would race her. The English press and public shamed them into hoisting sail.
"This failure of British yachtsmen to take up
the gauntlet flung down by their American vis-
itors was not viewed favorably by the English
people at large, and the London " Times " com-
mented upon it as follows:
" Most of us have seen the agitation which the
appearance of a sparrow-hawk on the horizon
creates among a flock of wood-pigeons or sky-
larks when, unsuspecting all danger and en-
gaged in airy flights or playing about over the
fallows, they all at once come down to the ground
THE "AMERICA" IN ENGLAND 37
and are rendered almost motionless for fear of
the disagreeable visitor. Although the gentle-
men whose business is on the waters of the So-
lent are neither wood-pigeons nor skylarks, and
although the America is not a sparrow-hawk, the
effect produced by her apparition off West
Cowes among (English)yachtsmen seems to have been
completely paralyzing. I use the word ' seems,'
because it cannot be imagined that some of
those that took such pride in the position of
England as not only being at the head of the
whole race of aquatic sportsmen, but as furnish-
ing almost the only men who sought pleasure
and health upon the ocean, will allow the illus-
trious stranger to return with the proud boast
to the New World that she had flung down the
gauntlet to England, Ireland and Scotland, and
that not one had been found there to take it
up."
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cIeo
Social climber
vermont
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Sep 26, 2013 - 12:15am PT
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Everyone over here in NZ is quite depressed :(...
Rumor has it they won't have another go - too expensive. Larry will have to fund 2 Oracle Team NZ (cough) I mean 1 Team USA and 1 Team NZ. Have to say, watching those boats was quite fun.
The Kiwi tv commentators have been quite entertaining... highly partisan, of course. But today, they couldn't stop complaining about Oracle's Foiling Control, which apparently is run hydraulically (vs TNZ, which is manual). Apparently it was challenged and the judges allowed it. I've no idea if it matters or the TV guys are just sore losers.
It is obvious that Oracle learned how to sail their boat during the course of the finals, and they are now the better team! Poor Kiwis!
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