Why should I move to San Diego?


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Jon Beck

Trad climber
May 17, 2013 - 03:33pm PT
Four dogs are going to be an issue. Very tight rental market out here, tough to rent even with one dog. If you look long and hard you can find a good situation in a rural area, but it will not be on craigslist, more a word of mouth.

Two hours to Idllywild from north san diego county, 30 minutes less if you are inland. Crags all over the county, they are just not marketed very well by the Chamber of Commerce

Short drive to Mexico for the real adventures

Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
May 17, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
four dogs may be a tight issue, true.

though other tight issues may pleasantly offset the
hassle that you'll endure of your hounds.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
May 17, 2013 - 03:52pm PT
apogee POPPED his San Diego bubble!


Trad climber
May 17, 2013 - 04:06pm PT
San Diego is great. Lots of great "rural" options in the area, too. Cost of living is high, and the rental market kind of tough (especially with dogs), but there are house options here and there that can be good options in those more rural areas.

The climbing around SD is great, too, and isn't far from bigger stuff. Good luck with your decision!
Jebus H Bomz

Peavine Basecamp
May 17, 2013 - 04:09pm PT
I've always enjoyed San Diego more than L.A., but, granted, have spent more time in S.D. than the latter and don't really know what I'm talking about.

If you're tired of winter and love the ocean, you're going to love it. If you like seasons, there's probably only two there. Inland areas get baking, 10 to 20 degrees warmer than coastal. There's a ton of respectable climbing within a normal day trip/weekend drive.

I wouldn't feel crappy about moving there ;).

30 mins. from suicide USA
May 17, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
Credit: neversummer

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
May 17, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
I've heard that SD County has more microbreweries than anywhere else in the country these days. That's not a bad thing, in my book.
The Larry

Moab, UT
May 17, 2013 - 04:33pm PT

The Granite State.
Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2013 - 04:34pm PT
You'll be way closer to Black Rock City :)

It was better last year...

Thanks for the input, it seems split as to being a great place to live and a junkshow frat party.
I'm not into the party scene anymore.

The dog thing seems to be the real crux if I choose to move there. I feel the pain of homeowners in being approached by renters with multiple dogs. It's a shame too, as these dogs are well behaved. (Insert dog comment here)

Bouldering and surfing in fairly close proximity are a plus. A days drive to mountains is ok.

What are these rural areas you speak of? It'll help me in a craigslist search for housing.

And work? I'm a skilled carpenter but at this point a change of scenery outweighs my prior need for a high end carpentry job. I'll do whatever. Starting over is fun.

Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
May 17, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
just because you squat in a confine
does not necessitate that you are confined
to that dwelling.

move to san diego.
work a 6-week stint.
make mega-bank.

travel to the sierras for 2 months.
exhaust said mega-bank.

return to the promise land.

sounds grand.

do not compromise your dirtbag ideals,
though you'll be distracted by
money-pushers and silicon models,
maintain your wayward path
thru monetary mecca.

exploit the opportunities afforded
and stray from the hollow distractions
that'll abound.

it's totally slick to
skid gloriously down skid row
right next to the wingnuts
whom drag behind and within them
their metal coffins against which
they prop themselves and present
to their world their counterfeit soul.

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
May 17, 2013 - 05:21pm PT
It's a very nice city, big enough to have a lot of good food, but small enough to have a homey feeling.
It's got fantastic weather.
The beaches are gorgeous.
It's really not all that far from a lot of climbing, a few hours!

Four dogs could be a problem in any traditional type of rental. Probably the farther you are from "the city" the more likely it would be.

I hope you come out here Brandon - you'd be able to drive to the Valley for the big September party!
Jebus H Bomz

Peavine Basecamp
May 17, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
Also, yes, the mega pixels of real live chica flesh may precipitate a rise in your insurance premium as fenders get bent and your eyes develop a severe ogle-induced nystagmus.
Dave Kos

Social climber
May 17, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
phylp sums it up well

San Diego is in a corner, so the rural areas are east (off I-8, generally) and northeast (off I-15)

Real estate is pricey, but being 30-45 minutes from town will help with the rent.

The further you go from the city the hotter it gets in the summer (unless you go into the mountain communities, but none are really within 30-45 minutes.)

Traffic can suck if you need to commute into town for work.

Plenty of climbing and a very active climbing community.

Social climber
Joshua Tree
May 17, 2013 - 05:39pm PT
One of my guys at work lives in Escondito, loves it. Another couple are in Oceanside, both are happy there. You could become a Poway Mtn Boy...or a loner from Ramona, a crook from Fallbrook.

KP Ariza

May 17, 2013 - 05:43pm PT
Border crossings......
What more can you ask for?
Dave Kos

Social climber
May 17, 2013 - 05:55pm PT
One of my guys at work lives in Escondito, loves it. Another couple are in Oceanside, both are happy there. You could become a Poway Mtn Boy...or a loner from Ramona, a crook from Fallbrook.

Do you have one of those rhymes for Temecula?
lele honu

Trad climber
May 17, 2013 - 05:56pm PT
send me a pm - I live in SD, am a Realtor, lived in SD since 2002. Can give you some input on the rental situation, and the scoop on climbing areas. Joel

Mountain climber
pac northwest
May 17, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
I dunno why every 2nd thread on here is full of misogyny and disrespect of women.

I have to answer about SD... it's quite a boring and pretty suffocating place. I find Tahoe to be boring as 2 hells but SD has its own special way of being "nothing to do here"... The place is full of materialistic Beverly Hillbillie wannabe types, busy competing with Jonses, driving new cars, bleached hair, etc... but Beverly Hills at least has some colorful folks unlike SD county...then there're some real hardcore GOP fanatic hicks, as the military base has heavy influence. SoCal's materialistic side is very strong in SD. If you go to places like Carlsbad it gets pretty damn nauseating, the plastic wealth-filled "paradise" they think they built... I left the area even though I had a good job there...It was hard to rent anything decent, as every one wanted either my fingerprints, or to know my nationality, or to be sure I'm really an engineer and to check it, and every one wanted a fortune for their crappy shack or rental room, plus 10 references from all past employers and landlords...Housing is expensive and competitive. Eventually, I felt I'd be happier in the slums of LA than in that fake little desert enclave.

The place is nice on the surface but very stressful underneath, really. Everything around is heavily developed, without major freeways leading out of it (unlike many parts of Bay area or, say Tahoe), so to get the hell out you're stuck in horrendous traffic on I-5 or have to deal with 100 street lights. Plus, it's too sunny... it can be nice in the evenings, especially by the ocean, but that's about it. Then, the air quality in SD is very bad and had been violating federal guidelines for a long time...anywhere near Pendleton there's major pollution from the base as well. There's smog that isn't nearly as bad as in LA, but you can see it extending into the ocean, literally. Lack of trees, of course... very crowded. The only thing I really like there is Botanical gardens, which are pretty amazing. I'd rather be freezing or be rained upon than deal with SD again.
Anxious Melancholy

Mountain climber
Between the Depths of Despair & Heights of Folly
May 17, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
Uhmm, how to respond.....
Don't do it, last thing needed is another couple bodies and dogs moving into So Cal. Crowded enough as it is and I'm working my way to a point where I can move away (although I've home based here my whole life! Yikes)

Stuck in the corner of the nation's a drag. Long drives are in your future and only a 90 degree arc of land, unless you head to MX (which is actually quite nice).

Over-inflated property values, freeway and surface street nightmares, big city issues typical of most.

Yeah, we can sing the praises of great bouldering, crags, beaches, climate, proximity to Tahquitz, Joshua Tree, dunes, surf and micro brews....but I'm telling you I'm feeling a bit penned in, kinda claustrophobic.....

Ah hell, come on out and make the best of it. Keep your happy face on, hit the good stuff, avoid the bad, and be prepared to drive a bit longer than expected if you want to find a place where your dogs will be truly happy.

How long do you expect to stay? You going to just rent the whole time, or do you think you might want to buy? Just asking as I'll be looking to sell here in the not to distant future.....
Dave Kos

Social climber
May 17, 2013 - 06:42pm PT
Gee...I guess it's all relative.

I grew up in Pittsburgh.
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