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Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2013 - 11:31am PT
This has been very helpful. Thanks all.

Lets see some San Diego County climbing and surfing photos to keep the stoke high!

It's crazy, but I'm pretty excited to move to a place I've never even visited.

New chapters in life and all that.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
May 18, 2013 - 11:43am PT
Credit: The Warbler

Credit: The Warbler

Prime Rib Eagle Peak
Prime Rib Eagle Peak
Credit: The Warbler

Soy Chango
Soy Chango
Credit: The Warbler

Tribal Boundaries
Tribal Boundaries
Credit: The Warbler

Homeboy, EP
Homeboy, EP
Credit: The Warbler
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2013 - 11:51am PT
Wow, Soy Chango looks like fun, my crack skills might have to take a backseat to pulling on steep faces. I like.
splitter

Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
May 18, 2013 - 12:00pm PT
when you say san diego, your actually referring to san diego county. where in san diego county is the question. for each mile you go east, it is around 1 degree difference in temperature. down during the winter, and up during the summer. when you get the sd temps nationally, they are taken at lindberg field/airport, which is on san diego bay, which gets the ocean breezes. so, if its 78 at lindberg field, it can easily be 98 inland, eg. santee boulders or woodson (but maybe 88, depends on various factors, eg. time of year, overcast, fog, etc).

the only reason to move here, imo, would be its proximity to the ocean. and to either have an interest in surfing, sailing, boating/fishing, or scuba diving, etc! mission bay is an excellent place to learn to sail, and san diego bay is an excellent place to sail in and out of. plenty of great beaches to learn how to surf. other than that, you can fish for free without a license from any of the piers, or better yet, invest in a sea worthy boat.

there is always something to do outdoors in the beach/bay areas. whether its going for a walk along the beach, a bike ride, a jog or hop on a skateboard to go down and check out the surf. lots of shops, food and beverage, etc, also. but the traffic in and out of the beach areas gets backed up in the morning and evenings. you can live just east of mission bay, the rosecrans area of pt loma, pt loma itself, old town, or mission hills and have easy access to the ocean/bay.

i would also avoid pacific beach & mission beach, proper areas. but pacific beach a half a mile or so inland isn't so bad, or the la jolla foothills/north pacific beach. or on the other (east) side of I-5 with views of mission bay. la jolla is kinda pricey, although really nice and with lots of interesting things to see and do, plus people are relatively friendly/cordial. ocean beach has the traverse wall/pump wall. and if you have 4 dogs, it has dog beach where dogs can run free. and there is plenty of free parking available at the beach itself.

i would stay within 2-4 miles of the ocean or less. it gets way to hot inland. i live in lakeside, and there ain't much to do. its generally to damn hot (it was 102 the 13th of this month) during the summer to jog or ride your bike, and just doesn't have the same appeal (isn't as conducive) that the ocean or bay areas have, even to simply go for a walk. you can sit for hours by the ocean and read a book, or on the jetty watching the sailboats, etc! or walk, jog or ride your bike along the coast or out sunset cliffs. there's nothing like that out here (lakeside). the place sucks in my opinion.

woodson is fairly close to lakeside as are magnolia boulders and santee boulders, but unless your planning on going to woodson a minimum of 3+ times a week, there is no other reason to live out here unless you have horses, you would be better off living in poway or ramona. and as far as dogs go, most houses that are up for rent in san diego allow you to have dogs. you might consider the northern coastal areas (del mar & north) for proximity to the ocean and less crowds, but as far as sailing goes mission bay and san diego bay are your best bets. there are a lot of small burroughs and communities just off the I-5 corridor, like tecolote canyon and sorrento valley, or the la jolla town center, etc, or I-8 corridor like kensington, and areas of north park, tierrasanta, and many more that are within 15-20 minutes from various beaches, and great places to live. You just need to know where to look. LOTS of places to avoid, also though.

as much as i like all the various, bouldering, top rope, and climbing areas in sd county, i wouldn't move here specifically for that. its primarily the ocean that has kept me here or what has drawn me back. if your not going to take advantage of what the sea has to offer, there are many other much cheaper and better places to live, imo! but kevin w. might convince you otherwise.

and as far as real estate, rents have been steadily climbing for decades (very small 1 bedroom or 500sq/ft studios start at around $800+ a month), but as far as buying goes, prices are back down to where they were around 10-15 years ago, and its a buyers market. if you can finance, it is cheaper than renting. a house that i purchased new at 350K in '02 and went for 775K in '06/'07 is now available for around 340K! My brother and sister still have homes in the same neighborhood. Could have sold them for around 800K in '06, but would probably be on the market for months now before they could sell them for around 350K, if at all. its like that all over sd county. But evidently it has been slowly going up the past year or so. might be a good time to buy, dunno!

edit: as far as politics go, its not necessarily that conservative. the current mayor (bob filner) is a democrat & a liberal! out of the last 7 mayors, 5 were democrats and 2 were republicans. it fluctuates, just like it does nationally.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
May 18, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
Credit: The Warbler

Windansea on a real crappy day for surf, but you get the idea. All my surf shots are on film, this was taken by my wife - this is a block from my house.
weezy

climber
May 18, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
proximity to El Gran Trono Blanco might be worth mentioning if you want to get your big wall on.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
I've always been a cragging sort of guy, with big wall thoughts. Baja is one of those places I've never been to, but I want to spend time in.

Maybe it's predestined for me to move south and learn to climb aid in the beautiful desert.

I love the desert.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
May 18, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
the mexican food gets better the more south you go!
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
May 18, 2013 - 03:01pm PT
If you like desert, Baja is good as it gets. I'd be happy to spend 3 or 4 months of the year down there exploring. It's like turning back the clock 300 yrs when you get off the beaten track.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
May 18, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
i like santee quite a lot.
O.B was a surfers delight.
mexican food gets better the more south you go!!
Fletcher

Trad climber
The great state of advaita
May 18, 2013 - 03:05pm PT
What pyro said about Mexican food. It seems that wherever you go in CA or AZ, people seem to always say the best Mexican food is at the current location and south! Ha ha! But you get the idea.

My daughter went to UCSD and always enjoyed hanging in the SD area. Everyone seems to be a triathlete down there. Definitely a lot of outdoors active people one way or another.

Good luck in where you path next leads you!

Eric
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
the mexican food gets better the more south you go!

Jajaja...totally.

More climbing and surfing photos, please.

I have always had aspirations to climb on El Gran Trono Blanco. It's just that wild place in my mind.

Juan Maderita

Trad climber
"OBcean" San Diego, CA
May 18, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
Brandon,
If you move to San Diego, contact me for the beta on El Gran Trono Blanco. There is excellent cragging on the several hundred one and two pitch routes in the area. Mostly bolted friction routes on superb granite, with 10 to 40 minute approaches from the truck. 2.5 hrs. drive / 95 miles
Just in case you haven't seen this thread:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=498517

Splitter has some good info and advice in recommending the coastal areas.
I'm in Ocean Beach "OB" / Pt. Loma / Sunset Cliffs. Surfing and climbing on the same day is not unusual. Perfectly mild climate. OB is very dog friendly. Somewhat overpupulated - seems there are as many dogs as people.
The downside of coastal living is the high rent.
Juan Maderita

Trad climber
"OBcean" San Diego, CA
May 18, 2013 - 04:42pm PT
Brandon, you wanted some photos. Here are a few, where adventure can be found just a couple hours away.

One of the many domes at Canyon Tajo
One of the many domes at Canyon Tajo
Credit: Juan Maderita

"El Milenio" &#40;The Millennium&#41; 5.11b, 15 pitches
"El Milenio" (The Millennium) 5.11b, 15 pitches
Credit: Juan Maderita

Riding "Tajo" at basecamp.
Riding "Tajo" at basecamp.
Credit: Juan Maderita

An early &#40;1976&#41; ascent of the "Happy Hooker" a south face grade V
An early (1976) ascent of the "Happy Hooker" a south face grade V
Credit: Juan Maderita

Almost surfing on a climbing day. Fred Beckey at Sunset Cliffs.
Almost surfing on a climbing day. Fred Beckey at Sunset Cliffs.
Credit: Juan Maderita
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
May 18, 2013 - 06:49pm PT
It was a great place to grow up in the 60's & 70's, but my city is gone, replaced with something bigger, meaner, and faster. Not to mention more expensive, no more brand new homes for $27,000. Then again, that's probably true for most anywhere any of us grew up. I don't get the sense from your general posting that this is a gonna-settle-down-forever kind of move for you, and this country is full of far worse places to live for a couple years, so I doubt you'd regret checking it out.

You've got plenty of input, and there's lots of great micro-location info in previous posts. If you like cragging, there's nothing to complain about the climbing, and easy weekend access to lots more great stuff.

I've loved living in the Northwest, it suits me well, but that's not to say round about every February I don't get to thinking that a month in San Diego wouldn't be bad idea.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
May 18, 2013 - 07:30pm PT
It was a great place to grow up in the 60's & 70's, but my city is gone,

Generation after generation repeats that mantra, only to find the next generation reinventing the locale. Millions of people live here, it is what you make of it. Sure, it lacks that NorCal vibe, and Carlsbad does basically suck. Oceanside is right behind Carlsbad, it is still a little blue collar, but not for much longer. The coast has become gentrified. Within a few years I too will be chanting that my city is gone and I will be headed north and east. Meanwhile GET OFF MY LAWN!

All the fear about Mexico has cut tourism down to a trickle, not a bad thing. Baja without even climbing or surfing Baja a lifetime of adventure.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
May 18, 2013 - 07:39pm PT
just a bunch of retail, no soul,

ma this ain't a place to raise your kids, in fact, it is cold as hell,

i know one cool dude down there and his name is Ron Gomez.

he is like the best dude you could ever know,




splitter

Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
May 18, 2013 - 11:31pm PT
99% of my pics are either slides or prints also.

here is a pic of a pic...
Credit: splitter
inside north o.b. jetty & some dude paddling out..

edit: outside is an A-frame peak that follows the jetty, then connects with the inside sandbar. the outside peak is generally about 1/2 again or more bigger. the ride can be 100+ yards long. best to take off outside and on the far side of the peak (next to the jetty). this can be rather dicey/sketchy. don't wanna fall cuz yer gonna most likely sacrifice your board to the jetty, and perhaps yourself. i can recall on several occasions catching my skeg for an instant on one of the submerged jetty rocks dropping in on the bottom turn. most peeps take off on either the center or right side of the peak. but for maximum barrel/rush, deep on the far'side of the peak is the way to go, and then connect with the inside sandbar and pump it on down the line. it can get really fast.

Edit: 'o.b. dog beach' is the 200/300+ yards of beach next to the north o.b. jetty! a great place to bring yer dogs!!
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
May 20, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
Not to mention more expensive, no more brand new homes for $27,000. Then again, that's probably true for most anywhere any of us grew up.

Not all of us.

Neighborhood where i was born:

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/245-E-19th-Ave-Homestead-PA-15120/11294043_zpid/

These days, it's definitely a "get off my lawn!" kinda neighborhood.

Even though the average home in SD is costs ten times as much, I think I'm gonna stay here.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
May 20, 2013 - 06:40pm PT
five hours and you're at Whitney Portal.

Who are you kidding, man?
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