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The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Apr 24, 2013 - 12:34am PT
It costs a lot to live in California, especially near the beach - that's another reason California climbers might not get around, as you point out, Jim - it costs to travel, and the state line is about 80 bucks to 350 bucks away. Unless I go to Mexico. The other reason of course is there is so much good climbing in California, through all seasons, that there's really no need to go anywhere else.

I could climb every day on a different cliff, dome, mountain or boulder patch for the rest of my life in California and not see it all, I reckon.

It's about time you moved back, old friend.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Apr 24, 2013 - 12:38am PT
picture if you will, the 38 million remaining california holdouts throwing in the towel,
and lighting out for the territory the rest of us consider comfortably disperse ...
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Apr 24, 2013 - 12:44am PT
Rick, my other old friend,

San Diego County has some really wild country in which to disperse yerself - I think you'd be surprised.

Just a guess, but probably 80 % of Californians live within 50 miles of the coast or in the Central Valley. That leaves a lot of ground.
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Apr 24, 2013 - 12:44am PT
California is OK, I just miss Polish weather ;)
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Apr 24, 2013 - 12:57am PT
Thanks, Bolte, yo are correcto!

Love to groove with both those blues wizards. lynnie


Edit and LOL: But what do i know. Maybe not blues, maybe......????

Miles of smiles.....but, hey, isn't there a jazz man whose name is Miles? Are we cooking on the percussion yet?
enjoimx

Trad climber
Yosemite, ca
Apr 24, 2013 - 12:59am PT
Lived here for 29 years! Love it.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 24, 2013 - 01:14am PT
hedge nailed it. all we gots is grainite.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Apr 24, 2013 - 01:26am PT


Good choice, Lynnie

Susan
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Apr 24, 2013 - 01:55am PT
Um,

Clark Mtn is in California, boyz, y'know Jumbo Love and all that.

By California standards a bit scrappy, but it IS limestone.

Oh, and Joe, we got a real classy sport crag hiding down here in SD, steep too. Hardly anybody's been there, but some well traveled climbers consider it world class.
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
Apr 24, 2013 - 02:51am PT
I am born and bred Californian who is heading to Azerbaijan on Monday.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Apr 24, 2013 - 03:42am PT
eighth largest in the World

used to be 7th

Looks like 12th now...must be slipping.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_California

Curt
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Apr 24, 2013 - 05:45am PT
used to be fourth in GDP, then fifth, then...

Used to probably have the best education system in the world, certainly in the 1960s and 1970s was number one in the States, now I believe it is 50th.

I was born and raised in California.

Area wise, Cali is larger than Japan or New Zealand.

Dad was from Olympia, WA, mom was a 'Mountaineer' from West Virginia, the state motto is Montani Semper Liberi", ("Mountaineers Are Always Free).

They say that if you could flatten out West Virginia, it'd be larger than Texas.

But, not many places have deserts, temperate rain forests, Redwoods, Sequoias, Bristlecone Pines, Joshua Trees, San Francisco (Jennie loves The City), Mediterranean climate, mountains, did I mention Yosemite?

Back when my late brother Mac was at UC Davis, first studying medicine, then viticulture and enology, I went to an 'open campus' day. One professor told me that, apparently, in the 1950s-1960s, California was responsible for one-tenth of the world's agriculture. I couldn't believe that and still don't, but that is including forestry, fisheries and the like.

Now it specializes in cement, asphalt and housing estates.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 24, 2013 - 06:01am PT
A generic greeting, a la Locker condole or CC birthday wish:

"Welcome to California, pard.

Pick up after yourself and we'll get along fine."

Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Apr 24, 2013 - 06:11am PT
1,999,797...

would it be wrong of me to post 203 things separately of things I've done in CA that make me love the place?
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Apr 24, 2013 - 06:15am PT
wow, that one post cost me 3 replies...somethings fishy...
Loomis

climber
Svět
Apr 24, 2013 - 09:42am PT


I am Governor Jerry Brown
My aura smiles
And never frowns
Soon I will be president...

Carter Power will soon go away
I will be Fuhrer one day
I will command all of you
Your kids will meditate in school
Your kids will meditate in school!

[Chorus:]
California Uber Alles
California Uber Alles
Uber Alles California
Uber Alles California

Zen fascists will control you
100% natural
You will jog for the master race
And always wear the happy face

Close your eyes, can't happen here
Big Bro' on white horse is near
The hippies won't come back you say
Mellow out or you will pay
Mellow out or you will pay!

[Chorus]

Now it is 1984
Knock-knock at your front door
It's the suede/denim secret police
They have come for your uncool niece

Come quietly to the camp
You'd look nice as a drawstring lamp
Don't you worry, it's only a shower
For your clothes here's a pretty flower.

DIE on organic poison gas
Serpent's egg's already hatched
You will croak, you little clown
When you mess with President Brown
When you mess with President Brown

[Chorus]
Norwegian

Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
Apr 24, 2013 - 09:46am PT

prophet on the burning shore.

kaholatingtong

Trad climber
Nevada City
Apr 24, 2013 - 09:58am PT
myself it has a little less to do with the GDP, but eh, i'm young.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Apr 24, 2013 - 11:08am PT
No limestone though,

You need to get out into the desert more.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Apr 24, 2013 - 11:44am PT
Sucks., except for Yosemite, the Eastside, and Jtree. I will be outta here soon

A common sentiment, I think that about 33% of all folks I talk with share your view and they usuly don't even know where the valley or Josh or the eastside is.

I always tell em.... "Ill come over and help you move, if you promise never to return"


I have lived in the Midwest and Europe and all I can say is California is MY home sweet home.


Oh to answer the OP... Jim, I think you are correct. We don't travel far for climbing. We don't need to.

Why go get hassled by UTAH, TEXAS, etc, LEOS who
hate you cause of whats on your license plate?
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