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donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 8, 2013 - 05:33pm PT
Hated her politics but, in her prime, she was a lot hotter than Palin.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 8, 2013 - 05:34pm PT
sullly

Trad climber
Apr 8, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
Remember the English Beat's "Stand Down Margaret"?



kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Apr 8, 2013 - 05:38pm PT
Hated her politics but, in her prime, she was a lot hotter than Palin.
That isn't saying much. The only good pictures of Palin I've seen her heads on someone else's body.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 8, 2013 - 05:40pm PT
Exactamundo!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 8, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
Salamanizer

Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
Apr 8, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
I just have been listening to liberal radio this morning,

Well now, there's your problem!


"The problem with socialism is, eventually you run out of other peoples money."

-Margret Thatcher-
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Apr 8, 2013 - 05:53pm PT

"The problem with socialism is, eventually you run out of other peoples money."

The state,county and Federal employees don't need any competition
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 8, 2013 - 06:50pm PT
That English beat video was way more sedate than I remember the feeling the song gave me at the time!
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Apr 8, 2013 - 06:53pm PT
Where is my photo of that wilting DEAD Cactus??


"The problem with Fascism is, eventually you run out of Lobbyist money."

-Margret Thatcher-

And then you have to rely on the Middle Class to pay the bills, like they have done all along
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Apr 8, 2013 - 07:07pm PT


Margaret Thatcher (1925-2013): Tariq Ali on Late British PM’s Legacy From Austerity to Apartheid

Published on Monday, April 8, 2013 by Democracy Now!
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/04/08-0

Former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher has died at the age of 87. Thatcher was Britain’s first female prime minister, serving three terms in office. Known as the "Iron Lady," Thatcher became synonymous with austerity economics as a close ally of President Ronald Reagan. She famously declared to critics of neoliberal capitalism that, "there is no alternative." Her long-running battle with striking British miners dealt a major blow to the union movement in Britain and ushered in a wave of privatizations.

On foreign policy, Thatcher presided over the Falklands War with Argentina, provided critical support to the Chilean Dictator Augusto Pinochet, and famously labeled Nelson Mandela a "terrorist" while backing South Africa’s apartheid regime. We go to London to discuss Thatcher’s legacy with Tariq Ali, British-Pakistani political commentator, writer, activist and editor of the New Left Review.



AMY GOODMAN: We turn to the breaking news of the death of former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher at the age of 87. She was Britain’s first female prime minister, serving three terms in office. Known as the "Iron Lady," Margaret Thatcher became synonymous with austerity economics as a close ally of President Ronald Reagan. She famously declared to critics of neoliberal capitalism that, quote, "There is no alternative." Her long-running battle with striking British miners dealt a major blow to the union movement in Britain and ushered in a wave of privatizations. On foreign policy, Thatcher presided over the Falklands War with Argentina and provided critical support to the Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet.

To discuss Margaret Thatcher’s legacy, we go now to London, where we’re joined by Tariq Ali, British-Pakistani political commentator, writer, activist and editor of the New Left Review.

In these last minutes we have, Tariq, talk about the legacy of, talk about the tenure of the former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

TARIQ ALI: Amy, there’s no doubt about it. She transformed British politics. She basically won over the opposition. Her legacy is still very much in force, so she’s not at all dead in terms of what is going on in this country. Her policies are being carried out by the coalition government. Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, New Labour prime ministers, were completely enthralled to her. She was the first person invited by Blair to 10 Downing Street when he became prime minister, to show how much he owed her, and Gordon Brown did exactly the same thing. So we have had a continuum, that the process Margaret Thatcher started off was carried on by Blair, who used rhetoric on the Iraq, Kosovo and Afghan wars very similar to the rhetoric she used on the Falklands. And this policy has continued. So her legacy is effectively to have wrecked Britain economically and to have made it a total vassal state of the American empire.

AMY GOODMAN: Tariq, can you talk about the legacy of Thatcherism for the working class in Britain?

TARIQ ALI: Well, basically, she took on the workers’ movement, which had become very strong. Trade unions were very powerful in this country, and they were effectively challenging capital by demanding a share of the take, and being quite successful. The miners’ union, one of the most respected unions in the country, challenged her. She organized the state, the use of the police, use of the secret services, to defeat them. And she did it, and she referred to union militancy as "the enemy within." She was very hot on enemies, either abroad or at home. And that phrase, "the enemy within," has been used subsequently against dissidents of other sorts by her successors.
sullly

Trad climber
Apr 8, 2013 - 07:51pm PT
Here's your order Dr. F.
photo not found
Missing photo ID#298017








Jaybro, I agree. Loved "One Step Beyond" BITD too.

So if you've come in off the street
And you're beginning to feel the heat
Well listen buster
You better start to move your feet
To the rockinest, rock-steady beat
Of madness
One step beyond!



GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Apr 8, 2013 - 07:55pm PT
Haha hey philo remember doing an old drawing for Bruce of Nomad Ventures? With desert vultures?
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Apr 8, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
Thanks Sully, you always pull through
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Apr 8, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
Hated her politics but, in her prime, she was a lot hotter than Palin.


TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 8, 2013 - 08:19pm PT
When Maggie became PM unemployment in GB exceeded even Obama levels at 13.4%

When she left office it was a bit over 5%


Also the longest serving PM in British history.

Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Apr 8, 2013 - 08:34pm PT
False. Thatcher was prime minister of the United Kingdom (including England) for about 11.5 years. Five or six, maybe more, have served for longer as prime minister, some much longer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom

She is the longest-serving UK prime minister of the 20th century, though.

As with Reagan, Thatcher had a somewhat undeserved record for economic management. Both governed during times of declining oil prices, and came to power when their countries' respective economies could hardly but improve, but Thatcher also benefited from continuously increasing royalties from North Sea oil and gas. She also faced a hapless Labour opposition, and had the good fortune to stumble into the Falklands war, the last gasp of UK imperialism.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Apr 8, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
Thank goodness the Mighty Hiker comes back at the nick of time to save the day

Welcome back
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 8, 2013 - 08:40pm PT
Imperialism?

Who invaded whom?

A tinpot murderous military dictatorship did the invading to deflect attention at home to their failed policies.


sullly

Trad climber
Apr 8, 2013 - 08:50pm PT
Mighty Hiker:
Sorry, but I defected over to Yellow Pines for FL 2013. You will always remain the camp host with the most.
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