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survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 19, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
NWO, I think I'd prefer my chip in the head of the old johnson. That way the signal from your sister should be plenty strong.

Me and my brothers will be coming for you first.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 19, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
Hi Fatty!

just can't stay away can you?

you and Lois still tight?
new world order2

climber
Mar 19, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
You're leading with your little head, survival.

Good luck to you.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 19, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
Same to you down in your bunker.
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Mar 19, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
Having a proffit component hooked up with health care will always be problematic. Problem is that the vast majority never do much of anything without money being involved, and the more dough, the more "real" and legitimate the work becomes. It's a mess, and pits human nature against itself in difficult ways. No easy solution.

JL
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 19, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
Like myself, Weil promotes integrative medicine (IM) as a better alternative to the current system. IM offers a combination of conventional medical therapies and complementary or alternative therapies "for which there is some high-quality scientific evidence of safety and effectiveness."


so his approach is to layer CM ON TOP OF the standard approach.

Amazingly, Weil and Mercola are practitioners of CM, and make a fortune from the sale of vitamins, etc.

The concept of "for which there is some high-quality scientific evidence of safety and effectiveness" would be good, except that what he calls "high-quality scientific evidence", and what actual scientists call that is dramtically different. Scientific evidence is not that which is published without evidence in chiropractic journals. Just because it is printed does not mean something is worthwhile.

Actually, this whole thread seems to be a shill for Mercola, who does not have a license to practice in Ca.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 19, 2013 - 06:25pm PT
Hoser

climber
vancouver
Mar 19, 2013 - 06:38pm PT
Did the OP really post a link from his MD wife about a doctor who believes AIDS is a product of your own mind...

What the hell...how do people like that even get into medicine...
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 19, 2013 - 07:26pm PT
Science-based Medicine: 9 Reasons to Completely Ignore Joseph Mercola
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Mar 19, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
Could be LEB. Nobody can type as fast as her, and also "feels" a like woman...

who are you Jeff?
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Mar 24, 2013 - 11:57am PT
What ever happened to ol' Jeffery van . . .

Just another flash in the pan!
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 24, 2013 - 12:02pm PT


"Not much longer until euthanasia clinics start popping up on every street corner"...

I fuking HOPE that is true...

Sure would be nice knowing that there is a HUMANE way out that fuking door...

Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 24, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
And where would you like your RFID implanted?

Just got mine.... They stuck it in my new drivers license!!!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 24, 2013 - 12:12pm PT
Move to Washington...!
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 24, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
I discovered a new concept, doctors who hate insurance and refuse to deal with it. http://www.southparkdoctor.com

Friend of mine told me about her. I made an appointment online, saw her later that same day. Got a prescription and a referral for xrays. The xrays at 150 bucks cost more then her 35 minute consulatation. She has no staff and will make house calls on her bike for regular patients. Consider this doctor if you live in San DIego and do not have insurance.

Waiting to see Dr. Z.
Waiting to see Dr. Z.
Credit: Jon Beck
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 24, 2013 - 04:35pm PT

As cool as it appears (the no Insurance Doc above), I do wonder if there isn't some reason other than being a good person, for not involving the insurance companies...


EDITED:

If she is the REAL DEAL, then fuking A, super GUD for her!!!...



hossjulia

Trad climber
Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet
Mar 24, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
I've had Dr.s give me discounts for not having insurance. Had a Dr. in Mammoth who charged a dollar a minute, no lie, what was his name? Wore cowboy boots. That was 15 years ago.

Ortho in Texas did not even charge me for office visits, just x rays. After I broke my arm and was sent home from the ER with a separated AC joint, I think he felt bad even though it wasn't him who did not look at my x rays.

Pretty funny at my first visit, 3 days after I broke my arm (horse).
I told him what they told me in the ER and he paused and asked if I was in a hurry. The hospital was right next to his office building. He ran over there and chewed out that ER DR.! His big concern was loss of blood flow to the head of my humerus. It has turned out alright, I think. He said it would take 5 or more years before I knew if that arm bone was dead and it was 10 years ago.

I won't pay into this healthcare scam. And Obama Care? I'll believe it when I see it. Not heard a peep about particulars. If it's over $100 a month, it won't be affordable to the folks who need it most, like me.
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 24, 2013 - 06:05pm PT

"I've had Dr.s give me discounts for not having insurance"...

My Doc, Dr Fist, gives me a real GUD deal since she knows I am close to being a broke climbing bum...

Cool lady!!!... (Just wish her fingers/hands were MUCH smaller)


"And Obama Care? I'll believe it when I see it. Not heard a peep about particulars. If it's over $100 a month, it won't be affordable to the folks who need it most, like me."...

I'm WITH YOU on that one!!!...

happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Mar 24, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
I was climbing with some people today and one of them works in an agency which assists people with health insurance. She said that insurance agencies have told her that we should expect to see insurance premiums nearly double once the new health care system kicks in.

She said that in the past few years, premium costs have gone up like 9% and 11%each year(I may be recalling the numbers incorrectly), but in 2014, they will be increases of like 20%.

Reason being, the insurers, being *forced* to provide insurance to whomever comes to them for coverage will mean they will skew their numbers and they will be covering more people who will likely be needing health costs covered. Since they must make their profits....that means increased rates.


couchmaster

climber
pdx
Mar 24, 2013 - 09:43pm PT
Sad to say Julia, that I expect you will be sorely disappointed at how much you will (that's YOU WILL) be paying when the government health care bill fires up. BTW, you HAVE TO pay, no outs unless you are impoverished. Otherwise you'd be hosing those who did pay in. We are averaging paying slightly over $250 a person and it's damned good coverage currently. I put that in for historical reasons. I suspect that future payees will think that's a misprint. It isn't.

Sorry.

"I won't pay into this healthcare scam. And Obama Care? I'll believe it when I see it. Not heard a peep about particulars. If it's over $100 a month, it won't be affordable to the folks who need it most, like me."
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