Has Ivan Greene responded publicly to the "chipping" vid?

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locker

Social climber
FukUville
Mar 4, 2013 - 11:09am PT


"What about Kolob?"...

That creepy little dude in the Lord of the Ring???...

Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Mar 4, 2013 - 11:23am PT
doctrine:
a : something that is taught

So you are redefining it... or at least using the "official" adjective to differentiate between the things THE CHURCH LEADERS tell their followers and the things that make them look like scientologists.


If the beliefs and speculations of all government officials automatically became law, we would inherit chaos.

If all meditations and speculations of church officials became official church doctrine, do you think a church would have homogeneity of tenets?

Yes, you can teach your own musings and theory at private get togethers. But doctine is taught in church. Try attending a Mormon chapel for six months, Wes. It's unlikely you'll hear any lessons or instructions about "ruling over planets".
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 4, 2013 - 11:38am PT
If the beliefs and speculations of all government officials automatically became law

Doctrine does not equal law. This has nothing to do with beliefs and speculations of government officials... who, by the way, are elected by the governed and not chosen by divine inspiration.

doctrine:
a : something that is taught

law:
a: a binding custom or practice of a community : a rule of conduct or action prescribed or formally recognized as binding or enforced by a controlling authority


Just admit it, your church teaches some crazy ass sh#t and instructs followers to hide behind the shield of "official doctrine" when they get called out on it. It makes you and your clan of fellow funny underwear zombies look even more ridiculous when you pull this sh#t. At least scientologists have enough honor to defend their teachings.
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Mar 4, 2013 - 11:41am PT
It's not a teaching...it qualifies as folklore.

And to you... a sensationalistic caricature of Mormon beliefs to
expound your one-sided view of the faith.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 4, 2013 - 11:42am PT
it qualifies as folklore.

As does all religion, especially one that has changed as much as the moron religion has in its brief history.

That sh#t was taught by the LEADERS of your church for Christ's sake. Not once, not twice... not mumbled over a cup of coffee or a beer... it was TAUGHT at Brigham Young University... by LEADERS of YOUR CHURCH.


And sure, I'll stop bashing morons in general... as soon as they own up to their DOCTRINE (teachings)...

...and stop sending 19 year old kids with the title "elder" to brainwash people.
locker

Social climber
FukUville
Mar 4, 2013 - 11:42am PT


LOL!!!...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 4, 2013 - 11:43am PT
im thinkin wes has done some "cleany-chippy" stuff on his talus chunks.
coz

Gym climber
Belmont
Mar 4, 2013 - 11:44am PT
Chris,

Just breath, Buddy...

You're going to have a coronary.

Besides we don't know for sure if he was chipping?






















joking....
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 4, 2013 - 11:53am PT
Ron, I don't chip boulders and I don't accuse you of the equally repulsive act of necrophilizing your dead animals.

Stop being a DICK.
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Mar 4, 2013 - 11:54am PT
Back to that stunningly bad attempt at Hip-Hop: was anyone else immediately reminded of the scene in Boogie Nights where Dirk Diggler, adrift in a haze of self-delusional hubris, actually beleives he can write songs and perform music?

My primary reaction is one of embarassment and mortification for that poor lost soul. Was that really Ivan Greene? Or a cruel troll? Holy mother of God, somebody who knows and cares for him should sit him down and deliver a serious reality check. Damn, son. CB4 without one whiff of that movie's delectable irony. It's gonna take a few hours of sonic cleansing -- maybe some Wipers, or Sleater-Kinney -- to disinfect my sense of hearing.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 4, 2013 - 11:58am PT
Did u know,, many a mammal actually has a PENIS BONE?


edit: wes,, ok,, i guess one is enough for any site..carry on...
locker

Social climber
FukUville
Mar 4, 2013 - 11:58am PT

LOfukingL at that Video clip of the dude being some PHONEY "Rasta Chip"...


Roughster

Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
Mar 4, 2013 - 12:08pm PT
Religious zealots have been chipping holds in the Stone of Reality for a long time now, not just Mormons and Republicans... :P
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Mar 4, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
Just admit it, your church teaches some crazy ass sh#t and instructs followers to hide behind the shield of "official doctrine" when they get called out on it. It makes you and your clan of fellow funny underwear zombies look even more ridiculous when you pull this sh#t. At least scientologists have enough honor to defend their teachings.


Yes, the church agrees with you...that I'm honor challenged...

But in nearly three decades of attending LDS meetings, I've never heard Orson Pratt's planet ruling taught as verity or authentic. But you, with all your "honor" know better...
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 4, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
Drat, too bad about missing out on Venus.

At least I'll be happy to know that part of my 10% I tithe is going to fight Gay Marriage legislation... millions and millions of dollars of it. Wahoo!

Mormons are cool. The church can eat a bag of dicks, a lot bigger bag of dicks than I am hoping Ivan Greene finds himself in front of. Because you see, that is what is important anyway. Perspective. Chipping boulders is shitty. Ignoring modern psychology and raising brainwashed children who think that being gay is something can be 'cured,' I dunno man that seems pretty bad.
locker

Social climber
FukUville
Mar 4, 2013 - 12:21pm PT

If the night sky is dark enough and you have a powerful telescope...

if you search the skies long and hard...

eventually you will see Uranus...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 4, 2013 - 12:22pm PT
Uranus,, long as it aint myanus...
OR

Trad climber
Mar 4, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
Back to that stunningly bad attempt at Hip-Hop: was anyone else immediately reminded of the scene in Boogie Nights where Dirk Diggler, adrift in a haze of ssef-delusional hubris, actually beleives he can write songs and perform music?

My primary reaction is one of embarassment and mortification for that poor lost soul. Was that really Ivan Greene? Holy mother of God, somebody who knowas and cares for him should sit him down and deliver a serious reality check. Damn, son. CB4 without one whiff of that movie's delectable irony.

Truth spoken here.
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Mar 4, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
John M

climber
Mar 4, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
At least I'll be happy to know that part of my 10% I tithe is going to fight Gay Marriage legislation... millions and millions of dollars of it. Wahoo!

Damn dude. You tithe millions and yet you still work at a gear shop.. How about joining my church? the rules are easy. Tithe to me regularly. Climb often, and you will become leader of Venus when you die. Or whatever planet that you want. Even Earth. I can make it happen. Just send that tithe.
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