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crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Feb 24, 2013 - 12:01pm PT
Isn't Ron an invasive species?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Feb 24, 2013 - 12:13pm PT
No one said you didn't have a right to an opinion. Everyone's got one.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Feb 24, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
no need to worry until these guys move in.
Credit: kennyt
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine
Feb 24, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
No one said you didn't have a right to an opinion. Everyone's got one.


That reminds me of the other thing we've all got and of my morning sh#t this am. There is now a pancake turd resting on Peavine with a little dog nibble out of one side. I should probably shower wipe at some point. And no doggy kisses for a while either.

Considering this thread that ^^^ is a successful contribution!
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Feb 24, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
I prefer to think I fertilized the womb with the nectar from my butt, Ron.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Feb 24, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
Like you doo? Did you doo something up there we should know about too?
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Feb 24, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
Read about that town when I was looking up hikes and such. Lotsa abandoned mines and interesting trails up Peavine. The fishing is terrible though.

Still have yet to do a hike up to the summit. Shoot! This is the weekend I was planning to do that! Now that I'm clambering on the rocks once more, my hiking goals seem like hiking goals again.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Feb 24, 2013 - 01:28pm PT
They interned them here too? Only one I've been to is San Francisco's Angel Island. Yeah, I've been enjoying the mountain too, been trail running and hiking on the sweet single track MTB trails up there.

Reno has a lot of opportunity people overlook. I guess the run down tackiness of downtown and the casino bizz underwhelms the outdoor outlook.

Back at it. Seconded WML's lead of OULD up there at the Fords the other day. In typical Woodfords consensus (something we've discussed before) reports have it at 5.10a to 5.10d. It still felt hard to me, but I got it clean on the follow!

Only Users Lose Drugs, Photo by WML
Only Users Lose Drugs, Photo by WML
Credit: Jebus H Bomz
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
Crystal peak out of Verdi? That is indeed a special spot.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Feb 24, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
Cool history. I can't believe I crapped all over it now!

Strange move tearing down those building when every other claptrap structure is left in place in these parts. Seems like a little history editing.

I'm excited to extend my runs now, look for some of those artifacts and such.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 24, 2013 - 01:46pm PT
Seriously Ron, man up and write a letter. Tell those stoopid scientists what they are missing!

I'm not a fish person anymore and I have never fished in Lake Tahoe. Back in 5th grade my favorite shirt read "Wold's Greatest Fisherman." Yes, even back then I KNEW I was the best at everything I tried! I learned to fly fish at 5 (you should have seen the rig we came up with!) and I tied flies every night with my pa, but there ain't much diversity in Utah trout creeks... book, rainbow, German brown... some cutthroats in some of the reservoirs... caught a few bass, bluegill, perch in some of the warmer southern lakes.. but sitting on a boat was boring as shit! We went fishing at least every other weekend when the weather allowed and in the summer we would do 5 day backpacking trips living primarily off of fish. Turns out, I'm allergic to fish. What I thought was exhaustion from a day of hiking miles on the rivers was just mild(?) anaphylaxis. My fishing career ended after my second emergency room visit when I was 11... but I digress.

Anyway, I'm a scientist now. Science requires answering testable hypothesis. You have some in your rants about how much more you know about the world than everyone else, but they need to be teased out so they make sense and none of them have been tested with proper methods. You might be able to get those dumb scientists to test them for you with a simple letter. Maybe they will bestow you with an honorary degree... you could take it to the shooting range and impress all your buddies.. by blowing it to bits!

Here's a start (remember, scientists like numbers, so use them when you can):



Dear ignorant researchers (you can play with that until it accurately conveys your message of indignation),

I have recently seen news reports about warm water fish invading Lake Tahoe. I have been fishing Lake Tahoe for (number) years and I can assure you warm water fish, including gold fish, have been there for at least (number) years. I have known fishermen to use gold fish as bait for at least (number) years, often discarding the remaining fish into the lake at the end of the day. This seems like a far more likely source of these invasive fish than "emptying aquariums."


From the news reports (insert the actual news report if you can... that's called "referencing your source") it appears you are stumped by the behavior of bass during the colder winter months. From my experience bass in the keys simply sink into the thickest cover available for the winter- tules, cat tails and any other aquatic weeds can be used mostly for balance in a hibernation mode. There they will lay in a dormancy of a sort, only taking in a small meal every few days as their metabolism is all but shut down by water temps and ice overs. Just like they do in mason valley NV as it too freezes over yet the fish remain year after year. (they can test this)

As long as there is oxygen the fish will survive until the water warms into the low 50s and their activity picks up. Based on an 8 year study i did on LMB, crappie and bluegill at Mason valley (again, cite where they can find details of this study so they can go back and look at what you actually did), they will spawn any where from 55 to 65 plus degrees- depending on the water and clarity. In any given pond largemouth will tend to eat a good 70% of their own offspring before they reach four inches in length. (they can test this, if they haven't already... I think they probably have, but I'm sure they would love to read about your 8 year study)

As for the fish you have lost radio contact with, look in either a mackinaw or a pelicans body. Perhaps a heron gutted it, or a Fisherman caught it and filleted the bass. Theres thirty pound macks in the lake- the same ones that ended the LCTs in the lake after being planted in the 1800s. You can easily test this hypothesis by slaughtering them all until you find the transmitters.

This news report (cite it) claimed a "new number one predator" when talking about bass, which made me laugh.. since MACKS are the numba UNO..Followed closely by browns..Only in the keys are bass a predator- other wise you probably wonder why in the hell they wandered out of the keys to begin with! (this is also testable, but I suspect if they made the claim, especially in any scientific article/report/conference, they have the data to back it up. if the claim was made by the news story, proceeded by "possible" or "potential" or similar word then talk to the news folks about that.)


We will have to work on the last bit as it won't make much sense to anyone sober... much less a scientists, regardless of how many drinks they've had.




Sorry to ruin your thread Brandon.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Feb 24, 2013 - 01:54pm PT

Sorry to ruin your thread Brandon.


Haha! Doesn't quite pass the "sniff" test!

You guys have fun with that, I think this post be my last sh#t of the day.

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 24, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
I like pointing out when Ron is being an obstinate old goat... but I don't like ruining other people's threads. Especially Brandon's.. he seems like such a nice YOUNG fella.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Feb 24, 2013 - 02:33pm PT
Ruined? who are you guys kidding? this has definitely been one of the good ones lately. Keep it rolling.....

manzanita man

Social climber
somerset, ca.
Feb 24, 2013 - 08:12pm PT
my last fishing trip at tahoe.
Credit: manzanita man
T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Feb 24, 2013 - 11:31pm PT
Giant Goldfish in Tahoe
$100 a plate at Stateline.
Garibaldi - I used to catch these surf-fishing in Laguna Beach.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 24, 2013 - 11:59pm PT
Crayfish traps arrived today. Can't wait to suck some head butter.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Feb 25, 2013 - 12:28am PT
CRAWDADS!!!!!
YUMMMMMMMMMNM


Who need traps.
Some string and cheese work great.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 28, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
The latest clarity study revealed today that Tahoe is clearer TODAY,, than in has been in 22 years.. Nearly seventy five feet of clarity..


THANKS TRPA!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 28, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
Thank you SCIENCE for giving us an alternative to people who believe in species identifying fish finders.

http://terc.ucdavis.edu/stateofthelake/StateOfTheLake2011_Chapter9.pdf


And isnt all these studies, attempting to "blame" clarity problems in Tahoe on a few wandering warm water species sounding even more ridiculous at this juncture? Isnt the idea of eradicating the keys of its treasured fish a bit questionable at this juncture?

Your lack of understanding is astounding.
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