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Feb 19, 2013 - 06:33pm PT
All those wild animals sure are lucky to have us deceiding who goe's and who stays!

EDIT: "goes" thanks locker that must drive the grammar nazis crazy can't have that

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 19, 2013 - 06:50pm PT

Signed. . . sealed and delivered!
sandstone conglomerate

sharon conglomerate central
Feb 19, 2013 - 07:33pm PT
Saw one deer hunting in wva once. Watched it watching deer and cleaning itself like a house cat for a half hour. Never occurred to me to take a shot. I was too enraptured with such an interesting animal.

El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Feb 19, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
Thanks for posting this Coz.
Hashbro has been spreading the word too via fb.

Trapping sucks.

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Feb 19, 2013 - 08:06pm PT
Signed the Petition.

Thanks for posting COZ, hope the kat shows up.

Big Wall climber
So Cal
Feb 19, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
From 2 years ago:

Trad climber
The great state of advaita
Feb 19, 2013 - 09:29pm PT
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I signed.

Saw one on a little used trail when running one day 20 odd years ago in an open space preserve near Portola Valley (SF Bay area). Very cool animals.

And yup, it was just for a very brief moment.

My son's nickname it Bobcat too!


The Desert Oven
Feb 19, 2013 - 11:09pm PT
F*#k civil discussion. Trapping is cruel, plain and simple. I don't like hunting, but get that it can be done in a relatively humane way. Trapping is 100% BS, and the folks that do it are some seriously cold as#@&%es. Torturing an animal for its fur is not justifiable. No apologies for my language; it pales in comparison to the vulgarity of trapping.

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 19, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
we're talkin live traps here.

Not leg holds.

Treating wild kitties as near domestic pets is as irresponsible as taking them out of season or on prohibited property (monument or private)

There's one that considers the campsite at the end of the loop in Hidden Valley his personal domain.

I called one in once when we were all up at the base of a climb somewhere back around Lloyd's etc. Saw him down on the desert floor and called him up.

Not sure who had the most astonished look.

My buds when they saw him headed up for us or he when he realized I wasn't a rival or potential conquest.
Steven Parker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree
Feb 20, 2013 - 01:04am PT

What in the hell are these deranged individuals thinking?

I think it's time to hunt some poachers...
...did i say that out loud?

Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
Feb 20, 2013 - 02:59am PT
Thanks for posting Scott. I signed the petition. I had no idea this was going on out there.

can't say, that photo is heartbreaking if those beautiful cats were trapped by some knucklehead this winter.

"Bobcats are being targeted for the value of their pelts in top-dollar markets such as China, Russia and Greece. A premium pelt of heavily spotted white belly fur can earn a trapper more than $600, according to Nathan Brock, who skinned 10 bobcats that he captured in the Joshua Tree area during the hunting season that ended Jan. 31.

Brock, 38, an active-duty Marine stationed at nearby Twentynine Palms Marine Corps Base, acknowledged that one of his traps was set on private property and not on federal Bureau of Land Management grounds, where trapping is legal. The region is a patchwork of private property and BLM land.

"I feel horrible about that," Brock said. "It's my fault for not making sure."

The manufacturer of Brock's trap, Mercer Lawing of Barstow, said critics miss the point. "We love those animals more than the people who are complaining about us trapping them do," Lawing said. "Nathan and I harvest adult male cats and turn loose adult females and kittens."

I'm sure Mr. Brock feels AWFUL!! I'm sure he weeps over his actions.

"We love those animals more than the people who are complaining about us trapping them do,"

What The Fu--??? You love them so much you trap them causing great pain to the cat then kill and skin it so some rich foreigner can flaunt their status by wearing fur? You love the MONEY they bring you by killing them. What a prick.

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 20, 2013 - 03:49am PT
Assholes like this guy at appear to be a big part of the problem...


Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 20, 2013 - 07:50am PT

Jim Henson's Basement
Feb 20, 2013 - 08:27am PT
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
Feb 20, 2013 - 08:42am PT
This entire industry should be panned. Immediately.

If today's generation is looking for a cause, this is it.

Look at this guy. He's so proud of himself and his work. :(

The Desert Oven
Feb 20, 2013 - 09:55am PT
What a f*#king piece of shit! Like these animals (and the rest of that ecosystem) don't have enough trouble without some dickhead wantonly destroying them for their fur.

Social climber
Feb 20, 2013 - 10:15am PT
Signed petition. Levy and I had a long discussion about this a few weeks ago. Check out his link above, as well.
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Feb 20, 2013 - 10:33am PT
Credit: can't say

Feb 20, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
Credit: M&M

This is what is imperiled.
Would we rather see this or see someone wearing it?
Our natural heritage or an export item to indulge foreign fashionistas?

How do we value wildlife?
Is it up to us to balance nature? or does nature take care of itself?

Feb 20, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
but the fact remains that it benefits the cats as well as the other wildlife to have a predator control plan.

now we just need a Human Control Plan. shame we don't have one implemented for planet earth's deadliest and most destructive predator.
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