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OR

Trad climber
Feb 10, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
http://www.supertopo.com/photos/16/73/288798_22409_L.jpg

Wow, graffiti on a shitty manmade structure that should not be there in the first place. Hey how about we leave it there and in 600 years it will be its own historical site of hieroglyphs.
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Feb 10, 2013 - 06:38pm PT

Lame! come on, really?!?!

maybe it's the wine but I think of a certain movie clip.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1TSsS-mB6c


"it woulda been worth him doin' it just so I coulda caught him"




justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Feb 10, 2013 - 07:08pm PT
When you say prohibiting access altogether, Justthemaid, do you mean no one can go onto the land?

If so, there must be a better way. Why allow the few to ruin it for everyone?
It's so not right to bann everyone because a few blow it.


No,... I don't mean that at all. To clarify.. I think access to specific areas (especially historic ones) that are prone to vandalism should be limited or prohibited if the public refuses to respect them. I never said that access to the entire park should be closed. I agree.. that would be stupid.

Example: The park service "closed [the dam]from 130 feet upstream to 180 feet downstream of the dam to protect it from continued damage." .

The public can still hike the regular trails and they don't need access to the dam to enjoy a day in the desert, so I think it was a sensible closure while they decide what to do.
10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2013 - 07:20pm PT
Or, two letters in the middle of a five letter word
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Feb 27, 2013 - 09:32am PT
My family and I hiked up rattlesnake canyon last weekend and saw the graffiti above the waterfall. I was really surprised to see it there - It's a damn shame.

I took pictures and was going to post here, but I see someone has already done that.

If the dates are correct on the graffiti, some of it has been there for nearly twenty years.

Does the NPS make any effort to clean this up? Apparently not.

If there is a funding issue or just a lack of resources, I would be happy to work on a cleanup myself.

Anybody know who I could contact in order to coordinate removal of this crap?

happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Feb 27, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
SoftKookay and Kat(if I recall her name correctly - she works at Nomads) are working with Bernadette to coordinate a Clean Up Day. The ranger we talked to at Indian Cove that day said the maintenance guys do such work when it is in campgrounds and similar, but it generally would not be their jobs to go that far out to do clean up.

Consider that the workers are already stretched as thin as the TP in the Hidden Valley campground potties. I think it is reasonable that this sort of clean up would be a Volunteers project.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Feb 27, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
I am volunteering.

But I'd like to know who to contact in order to coordinate.

I'd like to get a ranger in the loop before I hike up there and start scrubbing rocks.

Actually I need to learn a bit about how to best remove this stuff first...

happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Feb 27, 2013 - 02:49pm PT
Call Bernadette and ask her what is in the plans - or Kat at Nomads, who contacted Bernadette about those very graffiti pieces.

I don't think the NPS wants people just going on their own, since it is chemicals used to remove. Apparently they have some biodegradable stuff available.
mt10910

climber
Feb 27, 2013 - 03:15pm PT
You know it a federal offense to deface historical rock art?

Ya better clean it up fast or risk going to jail.

Or better yet, leave the art there for climbers 500 years from now to be able to appreciate.
FreeCoffee

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, CA
Feb 27, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
Allied Climbers of San Diego has offered to help clean up the graffiti in Rattlesnake Canyon. A volunteer day will be arranged once the area has been cleared by the park's Cultural Department. I'll be sure to post the details.

Some spray painted initials were also found in the Hobbit Hole.

Meanwhile, come plant some plants at Hall of Horrors on Saturday, March 30. American Alpine Club, Thresh Hold Climbing Gym, and Friends of Josh are making a day and evening out of it. Coffee, bagels, plants, rocks, pizza, and Matt Segal.

Thank you very much.

Bernadette Regan
JTree Climbing Ranger
bernadette_regan@nps.gov
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Feb 27, 2013 - 05:43pm PT
Two words:

Elephant Snot


http://www.graffitisolutions.com/products/elephant-snot-gold-max
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