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gonzo chemist
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Fort Collins, CO
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Feb 16, 2013 - 11:34am PT
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NWO2,
The issue is NOT about questioning government or the media. In fact, its important to question those.
The issue is arguing with solid, reproducible science. Small amounts of fluoride in drinking water produces a harder, more acid-resistant tooth enamel. Its a fact.
Does it damage the brain and make people dumber? I don't know...I'll have to read that paper when I get a chance--as well as look up any of the references.
Goin' climbing....peace...
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Feb 16, 2013 - 11:35am PT
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Question 'them' all you want.
I do.
But more importantly I also look for educated answers. I don't settle for mindless conspiracy drivel that is wrong. Who cares if the government OR if Alex Jones says it.
Wrong is wrong.
Not thinking for yourself will lead you to blindly follow one or the other and end up wrong. Both of those paths show that you aren't thinking for yourself if you can't answer one educated question but just repeat tired arguments that aren't even your own.
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 16, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
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It's a bonafide known fact that everything modern science has done to fix one thing they've in that that process broken something else.
This bullsh!t crap you guys are spewing that your so called science is going to make the world better in the end result has been pure illusion.
The whole world is worst off today than in the past and getting worst.
Because of the bottom line ....
Your whole modern science is only based on trying to fix the cage and you've completely neglected the bird.
You're complete whole modern science thinks the there's only the cage ......
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Feb 16, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
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You are making the wrong assumption that the same administration that does the killing is the same people that decide on other things like municipal water supplies.
Also making the wrong assumption that every decision has a uniform outcome and a uniform motivation. Making sweeping, all-inclusive arguements is dangerous because it leaves you open to being proven wrong with each and every exception to the rule. It leads to the logical conclusion that every person in every branch of government, all the way down to SAR employees has drunk the kook-aid and is in on the conspiracy.
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 16, 2013 - 12:20pm PT
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Whats your point?
That I ignore most all your foolish posts since you're never even in the ball park.
At least Tooth is IN the ball park.
You're on some island of your own that you make up in your head all the time when you have no idea what's really going on ......
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Feb 16, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
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It is true that for any action there is an equal/opposite reaction. So treating any ill in society will have more than one outcome/consequence.
That includes both adding and subtracting things from society.
So the whole exercise boils down to reality. Where are we currently, what is the rate of disease and what will the overall health effect be? In an ideal world, people would eat only food that they grew themselves with no chemicals.
They don't.
So eating supplements for some is better than not.
But blindly ignoring the fact that most people in the US do not grow their own food or even have the opportunity to when you are deciding what is ideal means that you will be making decisions for people that will have a harmful net effect.
This is why I'm for education, educated answers, not banging your head against the wall (repeating bunk questions) and freedom of choice.
Nothing today is as good as when Werner was a child, but banning cars and only allowing horse and buggies means that you haven't really recognized where society is and that this wouldn't be much of an effective solution. Once you do that, you can help educate and make positive change. Sweeping legislation isn't going to solve this problem.
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Feb 16, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
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I grow most of my own food myself. Can hundreds of jars of free fruit each summer. Freeze 20 cubic feet of vegetables and berries and nuts I picked myself. Very rarely eat out, and when I do it is to local restaurants who only use local foods. We have on overabundance of cheese, wine, orchards, etc. here. Haven't eaten at a fast food chain since I was in the US.
But yeah, you seem to have a good grasp of the points others are trying to make!
You seem to thrive on putting questions out there without answers. So here's one, but I'll add some explaination.
How many people have died from Fl in any shape or form? From fluoride in water or toothpaste?
How many have died from dental decay?
In the past 4 years I have known of 3 patients who died (2 were men in their 20's) from an abscess caused by dental decay.
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John M
climber
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Feb 16, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
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Yes, anyone who questions government or mainstream media is "bat sh#t crazy".
So too are war vets, people who home school their children, non-vaccine takers, Christians, gun owners, and a few others I may have missed. Oh! Republicans, Constitutionalists, and Libertarians as well.
OH! And anyone not in agreement with the Supertopian Communist Party.
I say, round them all up and stick them in FEMA reeducation camps.
LOL.... man are you batshit crazy. Bat sh#t crazy isn't someone who questions. Batshit crazy is someone who jumps to extremes when all evidence says otherwise. Batshit crazy automatically says its zebras when they hear hoofs in America. You sir are batshit crazy.
Me
Gun owner
Sort of Christian ( Believe in God, Believe Jesus was the Christ )
About half my family is home schooled. I fully support it. I just recognize its not for everyone.
2 of my closest friends are Veterans. Most of my family are veterans. I don't hate any of them.
I don't like much of what is happening with GMO. But I also understand that there is a difference between adding or changing genes and cultivating to promote certain genes.
You sir like to jump to conclusions without supporting evidence. You have no ability to discern what is reasonable or what is credible evidence..
Why?
Because you are batshit crazy..
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And yes.. I understand the difference between clinically crazy and batshit crazy. Batshit crazy is a human who is able to function in the world but has no real ability to discern truth and thus follows or believes every piece of bullshit that comes down the pike.
Here is a piece of advice. If you are in America and you hear hoofs. Its probably not zebras.
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John M
climber
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Feb 16, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
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Too funny.. there you go again. Jumping to a conclusion that is unsupported.
Take care dude. I don't hate you or myself. I just realize there is no communicating with you as you have a failure to comprehend. I don't know why that is, I just know that it is. ( maybe its because you ingested too much fluoride )
what you wrote on another thread..
You. Just. Don't. Get. It.
Too funny.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Feb 16, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
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Do all of you live on city water?
Not an option here, all this discussion makes me glad that I have my own well.
Yes, I test my water. Yes, I filter my water. No, I don't have any concern about all the stuff you suburban and urban types are talking about.
Just thought I'd offer up an alternative. Live outside of town.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Feb 16, 2013 - 01:46pm PT
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After looking at that photo I'm gonna go dump some fluoride in my well!
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Feb 16, 2013 - 03:07pm PT
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I have a well. Basically off the grid.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Feb 16, 2013 - 03:13pm PT
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In grammar school we used to just rinse with fluoride in class.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Feb 16, 2013 - 03:15pm PT
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My Grandfather made it to 102. The last 70 years of his life he drank L.A. tap water. Before that Mojave well water. He had dam_ near all his own teeth when he died.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Feb 25, 2013 - 10:01pm PT
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The U.S. government has been killing millions of innocent people all over the globe. Do you really think they care about your teeth?
This is a good question. does anyone have an answer?
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Feb 25, 2013 - 10:41pm PT
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No fluoride in City of Olympia municipal water. "It's the water."
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 23, 2017 - 01:29pm PT
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Well, a full set of teeth at least makes you look smart.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Sep 23, 2017 - 02:12pm PT
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tooth, I appreciate your efforts to interact on a rational/scientific plane when other folks in the conversation are unable or choose not to do that.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 23, 2017 - 06:39pm PT
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^Don't use it in your enemas, it blow your mind right out yur ass.
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