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guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 3, 2013 - 02:43pm PT
How in the hell did a hat that was the traditional working uniform of the West Coast longshoremen and sailors end up as a favorite of climbers?

Also traditionally known as the “West Coast Stetson” or among sailors and union members as the “Lundberg Stetson,” it was named for Harry Lundeberg, former president of the sailors group.

Lundeberg rose to prominence in the infamous 1934 West Coast Longshormen Strike. Leave it to a Norwegien to organize such an independent, rebellious and recalcitrant group of men. Not that dissimilar from a group of Camp 4 climbers in the early days.

The white cap was part of the universal uniform for dock workers, the “Stetson,” a blue and white striped work shirt called a “hickory” and black denim pants, or what was called “Frisco jeans” back then. Virtually everybody has this costume and it was called “dressing union.”

My stepfather was a chief engineer in the merchant marines and counted many longshoremen as his mates. Growing up in Berkeley in the 50s there were a number of bars where they congregated. A regular watering hole for the longshoremen and an oasis for the seaman before shipping out was the Solano Club across from the old Mountain Travel office in Albany. This was probably my first exposure to the hat. Later the named evolved into Halibut Hat and most likely this originated in the Pacific North West and Alaska?

The Halibut Hat was Royal Robbins favorite hat du jour in the early 60s and that is most likely where I picked up the nasty habit. But then again I was not alone in this mad and expensive habit of maintaining a regular supply of hats for the years to come. Always good to know you are not running solo in your endeavor. Enjoy.

Shanghai 1927
Shanghai 1927
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SF- 1938
SF- 1938
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Lundeberg Statue, Seattle
Lundeberg Statue, Seattle
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RR
RR
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SF Harry Bridges march 1939
SF Harry Bridges march 1939
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Bardini
Bardini
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Hickman
Hickman
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Bard and Shanachie lauunching
Bard and Shanachie lauunching
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Sir Eric Beck
Sir Eric Beck
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Guido and petite Guidette
Guido and petite Guidette
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Dan McHale
Dan McHale
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Denny and Guido-Camp 4 Reunion
Denny and Guido-Camp 4 Reunion
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Dos nXX ?
Dos nXX ?
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DR learning
DR learning
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DR
DR
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Edge in Chamonix
Edge in Chamonix
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Mike Farrell
Mike Farrell
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G Gnome-Valhala ?
G Gnome-Valhala ?
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Grossman ?
Grossman ?
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Guido and Ferrell
Guido and Ferrell
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NZ
NZ
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Tuamotus
Tuamotus
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D caunt?
D caunt?
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Harvey T Carter
Harvey T Carter
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Henry Barber
Henry Barber
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Jello
Jello
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Guido
Guido
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Kesey
Kesey
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Guido
Guido
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Local?
Local?
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McClinski
McClinski
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Isla Socorro
Isla Socorro
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Don't kick sand in this guys face!  CP
Don't kick sand in this guys face! CP
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Charlie Porter
Charlie Porter
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Rob Slater
Rob Slater
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Tompkins and Coonyard
Tompkins and Coonyard
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Twisted Crank
Twisted Crank
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Wayne Campbell
Wayne Campbell
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Yohalem?
Yohalem?
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drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Feb 3, 2013 - 02:58pm PT
Great photos Guido!

Credit: drljefe

I think what Mr. E wears is more of a Paperboy but stylish nonetheless.
BooDawg

Social climber
Butterfly Town
Feb 3, 2013 - 02:59pm PT
I had no idea that those hats were worn by so many illuminaries! Leave it to Guido to have collected so many pics of climbers wearing his favorite head gear! Great photos!
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
Ah, but they both have the same derivation from what is known as the Flat Cap Era-I sh#t you not!
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Feb 3, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
had a three or four year run with them in the early seventies, working on the beach in southern humboldt ... launching boats, tossing fish, ripping between anchored trawlers on one hull, and returning drunken fisherman to their boats by the dory load after closing time at the bar.

there's some shelter to be found under those things for the top edge of the ear.
a little scaly spot up there says i should never have gone back to caps.

not much of a burden accordianed onto the bill
and slipped into the back pocket, as i recall
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Feb 3, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
My step dad was in the Operating Engineers Union so maybe that's why he wore them - that was the source of my supply, and then of course, Royal gave license to wear them - The Union of Royal Robbins Society.
jogill

climber
Colorado
Feb 3, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
Fenton's Corner &#40;early 1960s&#41;
Fenton's Corner (early 1960s)
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age 70 &#40;2007&#41;
age 70 (2007)
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I started wearing one in the late 1950s.
thekidcormier

Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
Feb 3, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
Base of the split pillar 2011
Base of the split pillar 2011
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I started wearing one with out knowing how deeply routed they are in climbing history.

Great thread.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Feb 3, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
I copied the masters BITD
That or a bandana.
Aid practice Casper Mtn. Wyoming 77
Aid practice Casper Mtn. Wyoming 77
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Leading FA "Skateing Away" 5.8 &#40;1977&#41; <br/>
Toms Thumb aka Cannabis Crag <br/>
Leading FA "Skateing Away" 5.8 (1977)
Toms Thumb aka Cannabis Crag

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SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 3, 2013 - 03:53pm PT

My question, Guido, is are they made from halibut skin?


hee hee hee. . .
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 3, 2013 - 04:06pm PT
Great thread Guido!

What is not to like about an all-cotton, cheap and stylish addition to an otherwise cool head?!?


Heading up La Escuela, BITD. Rich Thompson photo.

Once the tidy whities became the style du jour then it was one stop shop at the paint shop to cover your ass and top.

The shot in your OP is me on the east Buttress of MCR. Rich Thompson photo.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 3, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
Credit: StahlBro

Credit: StahlBro
bajaandy

climber
Escondido, CA
Feb 3, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
North Pal, mid 80's. I just thought it was a rakishly cool hat to wear when climbing. (And yes, it's a Stetson.)
North Pal, Northeast Buttress, mid 80's
North Pal, Northeast Buttress, mid 80's
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guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
Routine quiver for almost all occasions:
Credit: guido
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2013 - 09:36pm PT
Well, that was the exhaustive and definitive work, for sure!
But I think we are owed at least a partial explanation of the aptly named
Isla Socorro shot!



A wannabe and his hat posing for easily impressed Swedes...

Title page of Stockholm climbing guide of last century
Title page of Stockholm climbing guide of last century
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McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Feb 5, 2013 - 01:38am PT
Traitor Horn, Tahquitz 1968, Larry Reynolds photo
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On first ascent of Looking Glass, Whitney Portal Buttress 1970, Keith Schwartz photo.
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MisterE

Social climber
Feb 5, 2013 - 01:52am PT


Edit: Just saw Jefe's post - thanks for the shot!

I was actually a halibut-fishing deck-hand (as well as black cod) in Alaska in the 80's. True story. This was when there was the 48-hour "derby" fishing opening, where you long-lined for halibut for the whole 48 hours - no rest. The black cod was not so controlled.

Trying to stay away from the winter madness, but the call is too strong.


Walk on the Wild Side
Walk on the Wild Side
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ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Feb 5, 2013 - 02:03am PT


Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Feb 5, 2013 - 02:17am PT
Best thread in a while!

It's weird when connections come together... I have known Dan McHale since about '74 and I climbed with Guido a couple of summers ago at Facelift. Never knew they knew each other!
Fluoride

Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
Feb 5, 2013 - 02:21am PT
Awesome thread and photos!
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