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El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Jan 23, 2013 - 11:22am PT
Tony, next time you go bouldering, try using a pad. I was semi offended that you refused
mine when offered.

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Jan 23, 2013 - 11:32am PT
Can someone give me the full story of what happened and a time line. I have only bits and pieces. Thanks

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
Jan 23, 2013 - 11:35am PT
From the perspective of 9,000 miles:

Who gives a sh#t that they're gone.
Jebus H Bomz

Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Jan 23, 2013 - 11:36am PT
I am glad to contribute in even so small a way to the sprawling site-wide whinefest going on right now. Waaaahhh!!

It's better than another gun thread?
The Warbler

the edge of America
Jan 23, 2013 - 11:55am PT
There's a general dynamic at play here - female, non serious or non climbers offended that male and mostly dedicated climbers are having fun trading photos of titties.

Now, underage or teen models should be out of bounds for various reasons - I honestly didn't even think about their age until some female poster pointed it out - but the hostility to the gist of the thread was obvious and coming from disgruntled women before that.

The climbing world hasn't always had this issue - climbing used to be a solid boys club, and women knew their place in it. Then climbing mags began to be scolded by "feminists" if they ever printed a photo of a woman that had any sexual quality to it. The mags caved to the vocal minority. I remember a letter raking Yvon Chouinard over the coals for using a photo of a topless woman bouldering, shot from behind in a pair of his stand up shorts, barely the side of one breast showing.

Pick up a surf, skate, snowboard, motorcycle mag and see the difference. There's more tits and ass in one surf mag than all issues of climbing combined.

It's almost like lots of climbing women are threatened by physically beautiful women, especially those with extra weight in their upper body who don't climb.

Nice effort to break out of the rut, Anastasia and crew. Prudes prevail again.


Boulder climber
Jan 23, 2013 - 11:56am PT
I think bes1st just admitted probable cause exists to search his computer.

Tony, sweet speculation brah!

Social climber
Jan 23, 2013 - 11:57am PT
when I read the thread title I thought "no way is he talking about the boob thread."

I was pleasantly disappointed.

Big Wall climber
Jan 23, 2013 - 11:59am PT
Pick up a surf, skate, snowboard, motorcycle mag and see the difference. There's more tits and ass in one surf mag than all issues of climbing combined

aint that the truth!

i went to the beach yestarday and it looked just like summer. tit's and roxy ass all around.

the boobs thread got the desperate climbers excited!

i agree with you tony.

i hope when a person contributes to this site it becomes usefull for the rest of this climbers community :)


Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Jan 23, 2013 - 12:11pm PT
It's all serious until someone puts an eye out.

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 23, 2013 - 12:16pm PT
Kevin, point well taken but for me there are other issues. I know this is a forum for climbers rather than a climbing forum but the OT content and the ensuing drama has gone, at least for me, over the top.
Maybe it's the angst that becomes more prevalent in the depths of winter, maybe it's just what the forum has become. The fact remains that 80% of the threads currently on ST can be found anywhere on the internet. Those threads, based on the posts they elicit, dominate the content of ST.
As i aproach my 70th birthday, the sands running ever faster thru the hourglass, i have decided to dedicate this year to some climbing goals. A climbing forum can serve like a support group and this does if you are willing to dig. Unfortunately, i find myself getting sucked into the muck and morass of the bulk of discussion here.
I need to take a sabbatical while i get on with my goals. I'll peek in to see if i can find a nugget or two.
Fish Finder

Social climber
Jan 23, 2013 - 12:23pm PT

I really feel for Chris Mac.

I bet he never has kids after having to deal with all the babies here.

Can you imagine how many emails he must have to decipher?

So and So called me names, so and so is a jerk, so and so posted mean images.

For F*#k Sake

Boulder climber
Jan 23, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
Hey Jim, hope you're doing well.

The Climbing World that I live in does not seem to have a problem with nudity. But I guess that's because the Climbers that appear in StoneNudes are mostly in their 20's a much different generation than posts here. . .Think about it. . .df

Social climber
Jan 23, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
Haha Dean true, but I think it also has to do with a positive mind set and healthy self-esteem for your friends.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jan 23, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
Bullwinkle is right. We should all use some common sense when it involves women's and men's feelings:


Jan 23, 2013 - 12:34pm PT
Who gives a fuk what you think? If this is a serious matter you need to get out more.

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Jan 23, 2013 - 12:36pm PT
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Wasn't it the Femenists
that burned their bras?


Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Jan 23, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
I don't for a second believe that any well formed male actually has an issue with the female form in any way shape or form, nude of otherwise. I do believe that people enjoy masquerading as puritanical guardians of The Faith. But I wish they would really go into their own thoughts and beliefs instead of bashing ours. There is plenty of room for all opinions here, and the most august, righteous and bombastic are often the most entertaining. And this is all entertainment, of that we may be sure. There's nothing remotely "serious" about a thread on knockers, no matter how you spin it.

Tony Bird

Northridge, CA
Jan 23, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
maybe you never had the pleasure of mixed company in climbing, warbler, but it pre-dates even your term in california. if i have to drop some names, try mr. and mrs. john mendenhall and mr. and mrs. chuck wilts. oh, yea, more boys than girls in this sport, but one of the things that attracted me was the happy mixed company of it. that all follows good manners out the window.

don't kid yourself that this is a guy thing. we already have a "tittay" thread that gets revived occasionally and then properly dies for lack of interest. this thread was started by a young woman with an agenda, and that has made all the difference.

maybe you missed the genesis of it, JL, being in the hospital. it did all begin with something quite serious, nothing remote about that, the sandy hook shootings. or, should i say, alleged shootings, according to the suggestion of tom cochrane, who brought up the little matter of mind control, patsies, and staged government terrorism, matters i know you'd probably rather not get into. it got to be quite a free-for-all for a few days over christmastime, and then anastasia decided to play the tits card to draw everyone away from the conspiracy theorizing and tom cochrane bashing. worked a charm. for the record, i'm not the least prudish about any of it, although i think it got pretty extreme for a climber's forum. i just ignored it and delivered an occasional snide remark on other threads. but i can't ignore losing lolli.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jan 23, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
Credit: Hardman Knott
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jan 23, 2013 - 01:23pm PT
Tony, are you seriously jumping on the latest conspiracy theory that the Sandy Hook shootings were a gov't black opps in order to steal a perceived right to be an as#@&%e with a gun ?

What exactly do you define as obscene with this thread ?
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