Degaine
climber
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Jan 22, 2013 - 10:59am PT
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PTC wrote:
there is a big difference between taking the next "stepping stone" in career advancement and mandatory day to day life and $75 million.
LOL
My apologies, PTC, I didn't realize you were just trolling, so my fault for actually responding to you seriously.
Have a great day!
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apinguat
Trad climber
kingfield, me
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Jan 22, 2013 - 06:35pm PT
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RW seems you have a lot of anger. I am sort of sorry you've written off so many people.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Jan 23, 2013 - 02:01am PT
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The most toxic aspect of the Lance saga is not that he cheated (he didn't escape its consequences, so nothing more needs to be said), but more the vengeance and abuse of his power as a public figure towards those who were critical of him.
That vengeance in fact helped convince people of his innocence, because it was impossible to believe that anyone could be so heartless in shredding other people's credibility so completely (and legally) unless he was in fact innocent. It was above and beyond what he had to do to maintain his reputation, and in retrospect, quite senseless and insane.
In Oprah's interview, he seemed to downplay the significance of his extreme bullying.
Bad karma for Lance, and only getting worse.
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 26, 2013 - 10:30am PT
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Bad karma for Lance, and only getting worse.
It's amazing people's need to employ moral terms to make sense of the situation. Or we start projecting the problem into the transcendental and global realm.
When all that is needed is taking a closer look into the psychology of it all. When you end up beating cancer, do you think you are going to let anything else get in the way? You are thrust into a rather skewed mentality of what is possible. If anyone has read Nietzsche, you will see that "will to power" is the driving force behind human intention and action, not concerns of what I "should" do.
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Jebus H Bomz
climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
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Jan 26, 2013 - 11:01am PT
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I find it truly amazing that professional athletes make incomes as large as they do while providing society with nothing more than entertainment to the masses or perhaps hope to individuals that maybe they can do the same.
Yeah, I don't pay much attention to any of that sh#t. Not watching the stupor bowl, I don't care how your college team is doing, and you can f*#k off with your jerseys proclaiming allegiance to a life spent watching TV. All the people here attributing any lesson of worth to this story are just more suckers taken in by the ad machine. Congrats, idiots, you sold a magazine, you supported coca cola, you sniffed the glue.
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Riley Wyna
Trad climber
A crack near you
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
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If anyone has read Nietzsche
Nietzsche was a f*#king idiot
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:25pm PT
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I wonder if all the people who bought Trek bicycles over the last decade can sue saying the bikes were misrepresented as actually helping you go fast. Its not about the bike, its the EPO. ha
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locker
Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:33pm PT
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TROLL = "If there was some underhand way to rise to the top, any one of you scumbags would take it in a heartbeat."...
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:34pm PT
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I actually was asking the same question with my friend the other day. I was wondering if the people who started cycling because of lance armstrong are going to quit cycling because of lance armstrong now LOL
cycling has definitely experienced a boom in popularity, probably in large part due to the strong appeal and "coolness" that armstrong brought to the sport. But I am no expert on the public consumer history of the sport
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locker
Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:42pm PT
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Lance is a smug, dick wad...
bike or no bike...
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
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Lance is a smug, dick wad...
bike or no bike...
that doesn't really get us anywhere. And it sure as hell doesn't explain his behavior.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
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It's all good! He says he's gonna help clean up cycling! Woot!
Or does that mean he's going into recycling? Good money in that, dontchya know?
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locker
Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
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"And it sure as hell doesn't explain his behavior."...
Stick that one on whomever raised him to be such a self centered, ENTITLED dipsh!t...
EDITED:
"that doesn't really get us anywhere"...
And where is it that you were wishing to go???...
Is Lance's life something that means so much to you that you feel obligated to find his answer???...
I am obviously MISSING your point...
How about some HELP???...
Or are you looking for the answer to EVERYONE's doping issues???...
;-)
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Degaine
climber
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Jan 28, 2013 - 10:13am PT
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PTC wrote:
Or we start projecting the problem...
You're the only one in here projecting.
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coz
Gym climber
Belmont
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Jan 28, 2013 - 11:10am PT
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PTC,
It's clear you're experiencing some education and jumping to conclusions, with every new book you read, but trust me, you have a long way to go.
I suggest some real life education.
I'm sorry, but you're either a clever troll or a complete idiot.
Perhaps you have zero morals, and relate to Lance and his narcissism, because it fits with your own psychosis.
You are not an empowered women being strong, but a court jester, spewing her own decay as a human.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jan 28, 2013 - 11:20am PT
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I bagged this peak up McGee canyon back in 92 with this young impetuous cycling star who ended up riding with Lance for a short while...This kid ended up punching Lance out at a training camp...Now i can understand why...This young guy ended up living on the streets of sacramento as a crack head , revived his cycling career for a short while then ended up back on the streets...The tumultuous world of bike racing...
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Jan 28, 2013 - 11:37am PT
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Rotten Johny, My best friend has a brother who was a cycling mentor to that kid when he first started racing in Sacramento. I think he is still on the streets of Sacramento I think he a wife and kid around. His second comeback race was a crit in Lodi that he won- and of course part of the prize was a huge bottle of wine. But he was already off the wagon by then. Sad story....
Chad Gerlach
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/comeback-cyclist-gerlach-relapses
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jan 28, 2013 - 11:52am PT
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Trophy....It was funny hiking with this young bike racer , Chad ...He was almost running the whole day and was super fit...We were climbing this 3rd class death choss heap and Chad had never climbed before....Falling would have meant death but he was clueless to the realities of mountainneering...Everything was loose and pulling too hard would send these large boulders tumbling down the vertical dirt...I was the first one on the summit and found a jar with a notebook inside...Seeing that there was no name for the summit , i wrote my name on the front of the summit register....When Chad scrambled up to the summit he read the name of the Peak which was my last name and not knowing my last name , fell for it...I now have a summit in the sierra named for me and am famous...On the run out i asked Chad who was the fastest rider on his team and he replied Me , myself , and I....He said it without thinking and meant it...From then on we called him Me , Myself , and I...The streets of sacramento...Yes...!
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jan 28, 2013 - 07:50pm PT
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I actually was asking the same question with my friend the other day. I was wondering if the people who started cycling because of lance armstrong are going to quit cycling because of lance armstrong now LOL
If an individual is a dedicated and serious cyclist, they are doing it for themselves . . . the current drama in the media would have no effect on their activity. Let's face it folks, riding hard is not for the weak willed.
Oh just one more little thing . . . the TDF is no joke and yes Lance won seven of them.
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