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JerryA

Mountain climber
Sacramento,CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 18, 2013 - 09:25am PT
Horace Rumpole & I think that compared to the Olympic and UCI officials who are still making high salaries ,Lance and all of the riders who did the actual work are saints !
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Jan 18, 2013 - 09:28am PT
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toadgas

Trad climber
los angeles
Jan 18, 2013 - 09:42am PT
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no real need to demonize him. most hyper-driven athletes are total jerks anyway. Armstrong will pay out 50 or 60 million in lawsuit damages and his foundation has done more for humanity than most of us ever will



throw a rock and you will hit an azzhole like LA



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gf

climber
Jan 18, 2013 - 10:06am PT
how'd that line from that stones track "you'll never make a saint of me" go-"
Saint Lance the persecutor
Was a cruel and sinful man
Jesus hit him with a blinding light
And then his life began
I said yeah

well i'm not a jesus freak -but that guy was and likely is a cruel and sinful man
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jan 18, 2013 - 11:05am PT
Not the point at all.

Regardless the UCI and the rest of those that silently condoned LA and his actions, LA still needs to bear the brunt of it all. For it is he that allowed it all to happen and to continue for as long as it did.

He continues to behave accordingly btw.

Shall we start with Betsy! LA's attitude towards her was less than authentic. Despicable comes to mind. And that is NOT my term but that of many others. He continued his self-centered arrogant attitude towards this entire fiasco when discussing Betsy last night. That sealed his fate as not being one bit remorseful in his supposed coming out.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/betsy-andreu-furious-and-close-to-tears-after-armstrong-interview

Sadly, many of those die hard LA followers out there will continue to defend his behavior and shun the burden of this entire issue onto others such as the UCI etal.

Along with LA, he and they still do not get it.

That is why this entire mess has occurred.

Most will unlikely get that as well.....
Ezra Ellis

Trad climber
WA, & NC & Idaho
Jan 18, 2013 - 11:09am PT
Professional cycling is dead to me, ba humbug.
I thought he was a doper 10+ years ago.
What a jerk!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 18, 2013 - 11:35am PT
I don't think that Lance possesses many, if any, redeeming qualities, but I get a kick out of the pundits who say that the real victims are the competitors who got cheated out of the podium. And, pray tell, who are those cyclists? Consider that when Lance was stripped of his Tour titles no other competitors were given them in his place.
They ALL cheated.....professional cycling is a farce.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 18, 2013 - 11:37am PT

BINGO!!!...

"The(y) ALL cheated.....professional cycling is a farce."...



EDITED:

and about HALF these fukers here on SuperTopo were READY to get down on their KNEES deffending that LOSER...


LOL!!!...



couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:13pm PT
It makes you long for the days of true honest champions



...like Greg LeMond.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:16pm PT
Either everyone should Perf Enhance or everyone should not.


why don't they just let everyone? Or have two different class of racers?

they still have to work hard to perform at that level.


The playing field is the problem.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
Either everyone should Perf Enhance or everyone should not.


why don't they just let everyone? Or have two different class of racers?

they still have to work hard to perform at that level.


The playing field is the problem.

Why not compete with the natural abilities you have.

If they are not good enough, then you do not make the mark and off you are.

What a concept eh?

Appears Lance's true abilities were exhibited in his first two TDF appearances and his very last.

'92 He finished 97 after DNFing after stage 12
'95 He finished 36
'09 He finished 23

His natural abilities never met the mark required to be a true Champion, did they now.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
For it is he that allowed it all to happen and to continue for as long as it did.

A totally absurd contention.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
The problem is creating an even playing field. Drug deception technology always seems to be ahead of drug detection technology.
If you had two classes, one for users and one for clean riders, the class for clean riders would become the most prestigious. That being the case, it is likely that someone would cheat and use drugs in order to win.
The only way to create an even playing field is to have no restrictions on drugs. It could be a devil's advocate sort of thing. The rider has to decide between powerful, but dangerous, performance enhancers- the more performance enhancing the more dangerous and, perhaps, life shortening.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
The force is with you - nitric oxide



locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:28pm PT

"The only way to create an even playing field is to have no restrictions on drugs."...


Great idea!!!...

Can't wait to watch the "ACID" group, ride...



SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:35pm PT
If the person who finishes last in a race is stripped of their finish because of drugs, does the person who finished next to last now get last place?

Jus' wonderin.

Susan
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
Yes that is correct, provided that he/she doesn't fess up and lose it. If he does, then it's turtles all the way down.






The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
A totally absurd contention.

Who else allowed this entire LA Affair to continue as long as it did other then Lance Armstrong?

He even admitted last night he wishes he approached USADA far differently last Fall and ended this ordeal then.

But he didn't. And he now regrets that, according to him last night.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
You already answered it

Regardless the UCI and the rest of those that silently condoned LA and his actions

Yes Armstrong did prolong it.

Maybe Doc Johnson is to blame too

G_Gnome

Trad climber
Pebble Wrestling.... Badly lately.
Jan 18, 2013 - 12:46pm PT
Chief said
Appears Lance's true abilities were exhibited in his first two TDF appearances and his very last.

'92 He finished 97 after DNFing after stage 12
'95 He finished 36
'09 He finished 23

His natural abilities never met the mark required to be a true Champion, did they now.

So obviously he could not complete with those doping until he started doping too. This is the point you miss in your tirades. All top level riders were doping in that period (and now most likely) or they were not at the top level.
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