Hardware carabiners at belay stations (test)

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tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 7, 2013 - 08:03pm PT
Steve, I am useing Climb Tech links these days mostly because they are priced better than the local hardwear store. The bonus is they are better worksmanship than the Nationals and presumably intended for climbing aplications? I will not hessitate however to run down to my local hardwear store and grab some quick links if I have an anchor project, am out of stock and do not feel like waiting for mail order.
What part of I will completly DESTROY your climbing rope with a 3/8th link do you people not understand?
Heck, if I can BREAK your expensive European CE/UIAA tested rope with my POS Quick link does that not prove that your expensive, thouroughly tested rope is more of a POS than my quicklink?
Salamanizer

Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
Jan 7, 2013 - 11:19pm PT
I second that ^^^

My skinny ass couldn't generate 1/10th the load needed to break one of those things in a fall, and I don't generally rappel with my truck clipped to my harness so I think we're good here.

On another note, I completely trust a fresh 1/4in buttonhead in bomber granite as well... and a quicklink has got to have 10+ times the strenght of that.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 8, 2013 - 06:46am PT
Even with my truck i have never been able to get one of these things to fail. The Rope always breaks first.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 8, 2013 - 10:55am PT
Most of the manufacturing defect concerns that I have are with the smaller diameter quicklinks. Smaller rod size and rope wear makes a 1/4" unrated link a time bomb IMO. I like beefy anchors and install beefy anchors that will still be around long after I am gone.

Once you get into 3/8" diameter links then the safety margin increases to the point where they are pretty reliable. Beyond that it is really a question of preference.

I buy most of my gear at cost so the comparative price points are very reasonable. I buy a box and use them up and go get another one.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 8, 2013 - 05:34pm PT
1/4" anything is a time bomb INMOP though I have broken climbing rope with 1/4 in link rated @ 880lbs I am assumeing that the working load of 880lbs is 1/3 of actual strength?
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jan 8, 2013 - 06:01pm PT
Interesting, because I remember the day when many fixed rappel anchors on this side of the Pond were straight from the hardware store. To me the best news was that even old "climbing" 'biners were much stronger than new "hardware store" ones.

As for 1/4" anythings, if nothing else, the relatively sharper edge would greatly diminish the breaking strength of anything passing over it.

John
mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Jan 8, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
Tradman can break ropes with trucks and malaysian links.

Check.



tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 8, 2013 - 09:46pm PT
When I broke the rope with the 1/4incher i made certain that the rope bearing surface was a standard carabiner. the rope did not and never has broken over the edge of the connecting biners or quick links. It always breaks at the knot.
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