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Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:11pm PT
And yet, somehow, at the same time, the US also led the first world in ignorance. It's almost as if there are two entirely separate USAs that have somehow become mixed up in this universe.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:15pm PT
I wonder if people will be as aggressive in defending their God as they are about their guns?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:17pm PT
i always DUG Farah Fawcett...
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:20pm PT
Almost all of may American friends are from coastal California. Maybe that's why I have met just a few questioning evolution. When I read those statistics showing that almost half of the US population is very poorly educated, it is just hard to believe. Even if those people have not been educated at schools, there is TV and internet. Who keeps those people in the dark? FOX news?
There are two different Americas in this country. They speak the same language but they can't understand each other. Very sad.

Edit: It took me too long to write it. It looks like others had the same observations.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:20pm PT
People who believe in creationism are perfectly gullible victims for republican lies.

American culture ridicules the intellectual with a mindset born of a combination of poor education and religious dogma.

This is why dubya got elected twice, and why the US is on the fast track to third world status
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:24pm PT
bruce kay,you play hockey?


amazingly enough, no I don't. I can hardly skate but I played road hockey fanatically as a kid and was a Habs fan when the Habs were battling Don Cherry's Bruins -- its as thick in our culture as god is in some others.

I sure as hell don't think it makes the world go round though.

I really think what Base said needs repeating. Ignorance is a forgivable condition. Willful ignorance is damn near criminal.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:36pm PT
Hey now - don't be dissing TV - bringing this pablum to the masses is what pays my bills these days.

I am amazed in how much TV fills the lives of the average Joe American these days. Rich or poor, one TV or 20 (including the bathroom) - my customers freak the f out if they are down for even 24 hours.

From the jock sniffing sports fanatics to the news junkies - all are plugged in but few if any have an original thought left in their shrunken heads.

Ignorance is not simply stupidity - it really involves the lack of the ability to construct your own logic in the face of falsity.

Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:38pm PT
If we're so dumb how come we're all rich?
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
Jim,

After spending way too much time reading this forum, nothing surprises me. There are people in this ST microcosm that believe in ghosts, bigfoot, imaginary friends, illiminati, WTC conspiracies, guns making us safer, space aliens, human pollution not affecting climate change, etc. I guess being rational and science-based in the USA is a lonely road to travel.

Seems unlikely for humans to change their beliefs from what I've experienced in life. An age of enlightenment in the USA is probably two or three generations away.
WBraun

climber
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
Americans are puffed up as#@&%es who all think they're smart because they have some rubber stamped degree from some school.

Then you hand them a screw driver or shovel and tell em to do something they stand there looking stupid.

Instead they have to tweet some fool about what some stupid celebrity is doing.

Nothing gets done since they spend all the money wasting time thinking and speculating about what to do for months and years never doing it.

WE are so smart they say and we do nothing.

Give the job to the uneducated they say since we are so smart.

Stupid Americans.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
Toadgas, I don't know the statistics, but it looks to me like most legal immigrants are quite educated. What's your source?
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:41pm PT
Creationism? Evolution? Creation of evolution?


Come on everyone know its really....
BELIEVE!
BELIEVE!
Credit: Alien Workshop
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:41pm PT
Give the job to the uneducated they say since we are so smart.

I know that guy. lol
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:42pm PT
Thats totally not true Toadgas, and it ilustrates the point anyway. Ignorance is something we all suffer from, some less or some more maybe and sure the lower you are in socio economic status the more ignorant but that is not a sin - it is simply an environmental condition.

Willful ignorance is something completely different. That is where you choose it, despite opportunity for knowledge. That is most certainly a sin.

blind allegience to ideology is the gateway drug to the heroin of willful ignorance.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:46pm PT
true, Toadgas
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2012 - 10:49pm PT
Nearly all of the recent winners of the National Spelling Bee have been non caucasion second generation immigrants.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:51pm PT
Not exactly surprising JD,, have you been behind a school bus lately?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:54pm PT
I will say that the higher one is up the ladder of socio-economic success, the greater the responsibility to avoid willful ignorance.

With that in mind I personally think that the entire lineup of Republican presidential candidates are going straight through the gates of Hell with no hesitation, with the possible exception of John Huntsman and we all know what happened to him here on earth.

ah Donald! Glad you could join us. We were just talking about you
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
bruce ,cool,its thick where i live to,i went to don cherrys hockey school.40+ years of hockey .....and werner,some people have a piece of paper they worked for AND have been tradesmen for over 30 years.....
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2012 - 11:01pm PT
Bruce, Huntsman was the best candidate they had but the Tea Party nixed him.
Hey, I'm going to have my prostate cancer treated at the center his father established in SLC- wonderful place!
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