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moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:20pm PT
Almost all of may American friends are from coastal California. Maybe that's why I have met just a few questioning evolution. When I read those statistics showing that almost half of the US population is very poorly educated, it is just hard to believe. Even if those people have not been educated at schools, there is TV and internet. Who keeps those people in the dark? FOX news?
There are two different Americas in this country. They speak the same language but they can't understand each other. Very sad.

Edit: It took me too long to write it. It looks like others had the same observations.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:20pm PT
People who believe in creationism are perfectly gullible victims for republican lies.

American culture ridicules the intellectual with a mindset born of a combination of poor education and religious dogma.

This is why dubya got elected twice, and why the US is on the fast track to third world status
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:36pm PT
Hey now - don't be dissing TV - bringing this pablum to the masses is what pays my bills these days.

I am amazed in how much TV fills the lives of the average Joe American these days. Rich or poor, one TV or 20 (including the bathroom) - my customers freak the f out if they are down for even 24 hours.

From the jock sniffing sports fanatics to the news junkies - all are plugged in but few if any have an original thought left in their shrunken heads.

Ignorance is not simply stupidity - it really involves the lack of the ability to construct your own logic in the face of falsity.

Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:38pm PT
If we're so dumb how come we're all rich?
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
Jim,

After spending way too much time reading this forum, nothing surprises me. There are people in this ST microcosm that believe in ghosts, bigfoot, imaginary friends, illiminati, WTC conspiracies, guns making us safer, space aliens, human pollution not affecting climate change, etc. I guess being rational and science-based in the USA is a lonely road to travel.

Seems unlikely for humans to change their beliefs from what I've experienced in life. An age of enlightenment in the USA is probably two or three generations away.
WBraun

climber
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
Americans are puffed up as#@&%es who all think they're smart because they have some rubber stamped degree from some school.

Then you hand them a screw driver or shovel and tell em to do something they stand there looking stupid.

Instead they have to tweet some fool about what some stupid celebrity is doing.

Nothing gets done since they spend all the money wasting time thinking and speculating about what to do for months and years never doing it.

WE are so smart they say and we do nothing.

Give the job to the uneducated they say since we are so smart.

Stupid Americans.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
Toadgas, I don't know the statistics, but it looks to me like most legal immigrants are quite educated. What's your source?
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:41pm PT
Creationism? Evolution? Creation of evolution?


Come on everyone know its really....
BELIEVE!
BELIEVE!
Credit: Alien Workshop
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:41pm PT
Give the job to the uneducated they say since we are so smart.

I know that guy. lol
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:46pm PT
true, Toadgas
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2012 - 10:49pm PT
Nearly all of the recent winners of the National Spelling Bee have been non caucasion second generation immigrants.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:51pm PT
Not exactly surprising JD,, have you been behind a school bus lately?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
bruce ,cool,its thick where i live to,i went to don cherrys hockey school.40+ years of hockey .....and werner,some people have a piece of paper they worked for AND have been tradesmen for over 30 years.....
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2012 - 11:01pm PT
Bruce, Huntsman was the best candidate they had but the Tea Party nixed him.
Hey, I'm going to have my prostate cancer treated at the center his father established in SLC- wonderful place!
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Dec 29, 2012 - 11:01pm PT
The immigrants I know are often very intelligent and motivated. Leaving your homeland and finding your way to America calls for a certain level of drive and willingness to work hard and suffer that is sorely missing in modern American society.

AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Dec 29, 2012 - 11:01pm PT
You can't compare the top 1% (who understand science, win Nobel prizes, go to MIT, Stanford, Caltech, etc, or who are great tech innovators) with the 99% who have no clue. For every Steve Jobs there are a lot of Homer Simpsons. The best few % of anything in the US is the tops in the world but the rest of the country is mediocre at best.
Canada is not much better except we are not as religious.
harryhotdog

Social climber
north vancouver, B.C.
Dec 29, 2012 - 11:10pm PT
Get with the times, it's not creationism anymore it's
Intelligent Design . Creationism is certainly not based on science nor does it sound scientific but intelligent design sure does so it must be more credible now. Next they will probably call it I-design to convert all the apple users in America.
I'm curious how the christian universities deal with the intelligent design vs evolution conflict. I assume they just bury their head in the sand like they have for the last 800 years, ask Galileo.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Dec 29, 2012 - 11:17pm PT
Spelling Bees don't involve reasoning.

Maybe not for the audience....
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 29, 2012 - 11:20pm PT
next to the boobs thread, this one is one of the best yet and just getting started
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Dec 29, 2012 - 11:22pm PT
I just wonder how the hell the generation that so embraced "enlightenment" ended up defining that concept as meaning 15,000 watts of custom lighting in their private vineyard estate home with built in sauna and 25 big screen TVs with integrated Internet access.

True - all of their construction workers were certified organic Vegans who drove Bio-diesel pickups - so I guess it's cool in the end.
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