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Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Dec 30, 2012 - 12:18am PT
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with our English dead.
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger;
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;
Let pry through the portage of the head
Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it
As fearfully as doth a galled rock
O'erhang and jutty his confounded base,
Swill'd with the wild and wasteful ocean.
Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height..."

Maybe a little hyperbole, but probably not quite that much. Best wishes...
WBraun

climber
Dec 30, 2012 - 12:36am PT
Ideally, blind dumb allegiance to Dogma should be marched in front of a firing squad and shot.

That would be 99 percent or even more of the world population ......

MH2

climber
Dec 30, 2012 - 12:43am PT
Now that you mention it, he does seem to be watching TV.


Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 30, 2012 - 01:07am PT
This is like shooting kneecaps on a ski trip:

Are you insinuating someone's Karma ran over their dogma ?
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 30, 2012 - 01:09am PT
Latest Gallup Poll shows that:

Sorry Mr. Donini (still can't bring myself to call you Jim), I do not believe in the Gallup Poll.

Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Dec 30, 2012 - 01:09am PT
I self learned myself.

(humorous interlude)





I suppose the older I get, the more interested I am in living in the moment. kinda zen. the rest, I really just don't know about. doesn't really seem to affect me either way in the long run.

mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Dec 30, 2012 - 01:11am PT
Evolution works perfectly well--under the assumption of a few key "miracles" thrown into the biologic mix...





...should make BOTH sides content--but, usually doesn't
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 30, 2012 - 01:34am PT
Canada's got ig'nance you can't touch:

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 30, 2012 - 02:15am PT
Belief in evolution



Third world, baby, third world...
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:19am PT
I don't get all the negative spins on this. Not believing in evolution is really quite the astute observation on the part of a citizenry whose country invented Walmart. Bravo, America, you have seen no evidence of evolution, and you're not afraid to say it.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:22am PT
What a bunch of whiners. These are surely strange times, but does the bickering really matter? Get on with getting on. And along.
TrundleBum

Trad climber
Las Vegas
Dec 30, 2012 - 04:19am PT

'Ah Wayno...

Just 'ole 'Uncle Jimbo stirr'n up another shiite storm on the Taco.

Gott'a admit though whenever he lights a fire he's more than willing to stick around and stand in the heat ;)
cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Dec 30, 2012 - 05:08am PT
80 % of Europeans believe in creationism? That seems darn high. Really, if you ask yourself did we come from an explosion of epic proportions(having started from a mass the size of a pin head) or with the help of some mighty intervention, they both tweak the brain. 30 seconds of serious pondering and my noodle starts twisting.
I still think there was an intervention, myself. But, maybe its the southern country backasswards in me.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 30, 2012 - 05:19am PT
80 percent of Americans think Adam and Eve shopped at Walmart.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Dec 30, 2012 - 05:34am PT
Hey werner, you should work at Fox News - you'd fit right in.

Ya know, perhaps even you have a certain allegience to dogma huh? Well don't sweat it. We all do for the most part. Its the blind and dumb part that is the problem.

You said dogma people should be put to the firing squad. Werner said that would be about 99% of hmanity. You responded with the above, agreeing with him.

Any questions Mr Fox News?

DMT
QITNL

climber
Dec 30, 2012 - 07:14am PT
You guys are confusing America with Americans.

America is geography, it's just a whole bunch of land. America is fairly static, neither smart nor dumb.

Americans are changing faster than you think, all the time.
hb81

climber
Dec 30, 2012 - 08:08am PT
I think the world population in general is getting dumber by the day, the main reason being that nothing but worthless thrash is being fed to them 24/7 by TV and Internet.
Mix that with religious nuts and you get people that believe that Jesus and AK-47s will save them from all that is bad.

Now the sad thing is that these people are always the one who scream the loudest and make their fkin retarded ideas heard while the smart and educated sit quietly in the back and bow their heads in shame.

I for myself have resigned caring about this stuff all that much because there is nothing that I could do about it anyway. I just try to have a positive effect on the people in my life, thats all I can do to improve this f*#ked up world.

Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Dec 30, 2012 - 08:31am PT
why, jim, an off-topic post. maybe the world is going to end soon.

oops--sorry--i forgot--dingus's tractors are on topic too.
Norwegian

Trad climber
Placerville, California
Dec 30, 2012 - 09:09am PT
i got a 'un o' those stupid f*#king rubber stamps, i do.
"when you find yourself on the side of the majority, <br/>
it is time to p...
"when you find yourself on the side of the majority,
it is time to pause and reflect" - mark twain
Credit: Norwegian

i can drive a screwdriver,
if hard pressed.

i don't deny that im a dumb c#&%.
this stance of anti-arrogance has served
well my aim to learn forever, and then re-learn never.

my suits are never pressed.
my socks rarely match.
thugh
i own whatever i want to own,
if im patient enough to await god's orgasm.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Dec 30, 2012 - 09:40am PT
norsky, you're an engineer! that means you can drive a choo-choo! fun job!

oops, drifting the thread here.

back on topic to our off-topic. maybe there'll be a climbing angle somehow, there always seems to be. like--do you believe that climbers evolve, and does it involve divine intervention?
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