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Peter Haan

Trad climber

San Francisco, CA

Dec 28, 2012 - 08:02am PT

Good, Davis.

10b4me

Boulder climber

Somewhere on 395

Dec 28, 2012 - 08:17am PT

If it is any solace, I'm still waiting to get paid from Alpinist for a pic they ran of mine like 3 years ago. Hell, maybe even longer.

Russ, wasn't that before they went out of business?

Might have got lost when the new owners took over

Jus sayin'

Prod

Trad climber

Dec 28, 2012 - 08:57am PT

GDavis. This is not my fight, and I would also rather it was solved via good communication between the 2 parties as well. But to tell a guy he is wrong for standing up for what he is owed is wrong in my book. Granted there may well be circumstances that we are unaware of.

Cheers

Prod.

Katie_I

Mountain climber

Wyoming

Dec 28, 2012 - 09:17am PT

I tried emailing Russ Walling through Supertopo, but I don't know whether the message worked or not--and I'm not sure how to pick up a Supertopo message if he did email me back (I'm not used to using the message system on the forum).

Perhaps he'll see this post and email me at my work address: katie@alpinist.com.

If Russ can let me know what issue of Alpinist his photo was in, I can look into it and follow up with him. In general, if you're an Alpinist contributor and you don't get paid within two months after publication, it's always best to email or call us directly--and it's fine to ask about payment sooner than that, too, if you're worried. (Last year, two contributors' checks got lost in the mail, and if they hadn't emailed me, we wouldn't have known that something had gone wrong.)

Our contributors work incredibly hard, and it's very important to us that they get paid.

Take care,

Katie Ives, editor
Alpinist Magazine

stich

Trad climber

Colorado Springs, Colorado

Dec 28, 2012 - 09:18am PT

"Unlikely you will ever get published again."

philo

Trad climber

Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?

Dec 28, 2012 - 09:19am PT

Wow Katie it always amazes me how on top of this stuff you are.

Russ Walling

Social climber

from Poofters Froth, Wyoming

Dec 28, 2012 - 09:24am PT

Hi Katie,
Nothing yet in email but I'm out of the office for a while....

I do not know the issue # but if I recall it was a pic of Walt Shipley at a Bivy on Bad Sign. Something like this:


	Walt Shipley at the bivy Credit: Russ Walling

It was attributed to Troy Johnson and had the route wrong too. I'm not even sure how you guys got the pic, but it was not through me. I emailed at the time and was told it would be taken care of... It's not like I'm going hungry or anything, but it is a loose end.
Thanks

eeyonkee

Trad climber

Golden, CO

Dec 28, 2012 - 09:38am PT

I'll tell you what doesn't pay...crime. Even just stealing a loaf of bread. See Les Miserables for a good example of this one.

Katie_I

Mountain climber

Wyoming

Dec 28, 2012 - 09:40am PT

Thanks Russ,

I just found the photo. It was on Page 42 of Alpinist 25, Autumn 2008. Unfortunately the reason you didn't get paid is that the old owners of Alpinist went bankrupt in October 2008, soon after publishing that issue.

The new owners (who bought the magazine in December 2008 and who relaunched it in January 2009) can't pay off the old owners' debts (which were part of the bankruptcy process). I'm really sorry about that. I was hoping the photo was in one of the post-Alpinist 25 issues, which were published by the new owners.

Maybe I could send you something else in lieu of payment? A couple of free subscriptions? Send me an email to my katie@alpinist.com address?

Take care,
Katie

locker

Social climber

state of Kumbaya...

Dec 28, 2012 - 09:42am PT

"Maybe I could send you something else in lieu of payment? A couple of free subscriptions?"...

Yeah!!!...

Do THAT and address one to me...

LOL!!!...

Russ Walling

Social climber

from Poofters Froth, Wyoming

Dec 28, 2012 - 09:42am PT

Katie, you are top shelf!

I'll send you an email in a bit.
Thanks!

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 28, 2012 - 09:45am PT

Wow. Very prompt and responsible.

Reaffirms my belief that Alpinist, and it's employees, hold themselves to the highest standards.

Now if they would start printing letters again...I liked reading them.

stich

Trad climber

Colorado Springs, Colorado

Dec 28, 2012 - 10:16am PT

"Now if they would start printing letters again...I liked reading them. "

Especially their editorial responses to those "milquetoast" letter writers.

John Mac

Trad climber

Littleton, CO

Dec 28, 2012 - 10:18am PT

It just shows you that there are two ways to do things; the Alpinist way or the other way... Talk about stepping up and taking care of business in a profession and kind way.

Glad I've been subscribing since issue "0" ...

slabbo

Trad climber

fort garland, colo

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 10:38am PT

Well that's interesting !!!!

drama Queen ? hardly. i asked if anyone else has had issues with late payments ? I guess the answer is Yes
Climbing solicited me for photos and interview for an article , I didn't just send stuff in.

Peter- why would i delete this thread ??
Maybe when I get paid

john

Tami

Social climber

Canada

Dec 28, 2012 - 10:47am PT

My point in calling you a drama queen was that you've brought your problem to a public forum rather then writing to the editors.

Yes I have had late payments from the magazines. When it occured, I wrote them and asked WTF , heard back immediately and was paid in full.

So..........had you actually written and asked WTF?

Or did you figure to advance your publishing career by bringing this private issue into a public forum?