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John M
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Dec 15, 2012 - 01:03am PT
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Ah.. thanks for the pic.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2012 - 09:17am PT
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Bear Haven looks incredible. If I can find it I have footage of a fly over I did of Bear Haven that had intrigued me for years. It reminds me of an island in the sky, kind of a mini Angel Falls type area. All kinds of mini canyons and slots. Would love to explore it some day.
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miwuksurfer
Social climber
Mi-Wuk
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Feb 14, 2014 - 11:21pm PT
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If/when we get some water I'm totally down to hit the Sespe. Been on my radar since backpacking back to the hotsprings.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2015 - 06:35pm PT
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Bump, pray for rain
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jan 29, 2015 - 02:44pm PT
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Sweet old school kayak pics
Looks circa 1990?
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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Jan 29, 2015 - 02:57pm PT
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huh, you must be the 4th person in CA who owns an Alpaca.
I've got one, always looking for PR partners.
so question re Alpaca... I've used the Supai which weighs a 1.5lbs.. flimsy little piece of fabric but gets the job done at much less the weight. Do you find the Alpaca is worth the weight because of greater maneuverability? Looks like some hydraulics on this run.
OP..do you think this run is maneuverable in the pack raft vs the kayak? Or is it simply balls out ride down? Most pack rafts are suggested as flat water boats, right?
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youngharz
Boulder climber
Santa Barbara
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Jan 29, 2015 - 05:53pm PT
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Cool Thread! I was up near Devil's Gate in '05 after a massive flood event re-worked the whole canyon. I believe this was right after the boulders washed down from Tar Creek. I wasn't a boater then, but I think we must have been up there during one of those rare times the Sespe was runable.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jan 29, 2015 - 08:25pm PT
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Last time I was there we walked into a pool of oil during the night.
That might be the same tar pool I rapped into descending Yeager Canyon. Yuck.
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Guernica
climber
dark places
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Jan 29, 2015 - 08:51pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]LuckyPink, I'd love to hear what the OP has to say, but these guys are taking packrafts well beyond flatwater.
Been thinking about getting one myself so I've researched it a bit. Not inexpensive by any stretch, but they look fun as hell.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2015 - 02:22pm PT
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I have done it twice by kayak and once in a 10' SOTAR self bailing raft. The Alpaca raft is head and shoulders above any other "pack raft" IMO. It's not much heavier but it is much stiffer and punches through hydraulics better and carries weight better. The first 10 miles would be a lot of walking as the river tends to be wider and shallower with more opportunity to put a hole in your boat. The remaining 20 miles the river channels up and gets really fun. I wouldnt run a lot of the stuff I do in my kayak in a pack raft but a good portion of it would be runnable. I would look at it more like a canyoneering trip with a pack raft. hard stuff would be easy to portage with a pack raft compared to a kayak or 10' raft.
SLR, yes those kayak shots are mid to early 90's. I think the first time I ran Sespe was in a Perception Corsica and the second time was in a Perception Overflow, both considered creek boats at the time but are huge by todays standards.
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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Jan 30, 2015 - 03:14pm PT
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thanks for the posts. all I can say is BooF!
guess sespe gets on my list.
The Alpaca is 6lbs heavier than the Supai and it has a deck skin. Nice feature.
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