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T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Dec 8, 2012 - 12:31am PT
San Diego is a great place to "live", but you've got a drive to get to any serious climbing. 2-3 hours ... 5-7 hours ...
Then, Warbler has been lying to us all along?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Dec 8, 2012 - 12:31am PT
Lot to be said for the northern L.A. area, up there along the San Gabriels. Especially this time of year when they're freezing up in Buffalo. Oh sh#t it'll be 70 and sunny even when it's dark. All the men are trim and all the girls are beautiful. Everyone drives a convertible.

San Francisco has hellish weather. It's up hill, both ways. San Franciscans are so busy patting themselves on the back they don't have time to climb. Good thing too, the bridge traffic is murder.

The rest of the Bay Area is a climbing wasteland. Smileyville, all perched precariously on top of the deadliest fault lines in northern California. They built nuclear facilities on the f*#king fault line can you believe it???! They designed the bomb there fer fuksakes! Takes 18 hours to drive any f*#king where too except for cobble alley down Pinnacles way. Ew. Forget about it.

Davis? Burn in summer and moulder in winter fog, yummy. Its a flatland for christsakes they have AG MAJORS at the university there. They all know how to drive tractors, even the hippies. Its on the wrong side of Sacramento, which btw you need to steer clear from. Just a bigger poorer version the same. You gotta drive like 2 hours from there just to get your head out of your ass.

San Diego is a landlocked prison. Don't tell them that they're in the bubble, just remember. Once you go in you can't get out. They're all tan in their white shorts and deck shoes but mark my words they're all sharks. The problems are wired, the approaches booby trapped. They guard those worthless brown turd boulders of theirs like Apache's defending the stronghold. Which they are. Its been nice knowing you.

The rest is just Hooterville nawmean, if you've a shingle to hang any town'll do right? You can be a Dr. or a Lawyer or slick assed saleswoman or a grocer or a f*#king whore I don't care, Bishop, Oakhurst, Mindenville, whatever.

DMT
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Dec 8, 2012 - 12:33am PT
Did somebody upthread actually discourage San Diego as a good place for after-work climbing and weekend access to major crags? Uh...yes! He's right! These are not the boulders you seek! Move along.

I can speak from the tough experience of growing up and learning to climb in SD, it's pretty bogus. Easier access to Stony Point would have been a major bonus.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Dec 8, 2012 - 12:36am PT
^^^

Cheers buddy!
DMT
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Dec 8, 2012 - 12:43am PT
Two thumbs up, Dingster!
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Dec 8, 2012 - 12:53am PT
If you're planning on moving anywhere south of the grapevine, just kill yourself, you'll want to eventually anyway. Unless you like big cities. If so, we don't think the same so no advice. Otherwise, central valley (Fresno-Visalia area)! You'll understand why once you live here.

Lots of good jobs too 'cause most college grads go elsewhere and leave them for the rest of us (depending on what field your looking for) :)

Fletcher

Trad climber
The rock doesn't care what I think
Dec 8, 2012 - 01:02am PT
For accessibility and nice weather, I third the Pasadena area. Lived here for years and I'm now up the hill in Altadena... closer to the mountains and when it's snowing way up high, you get the feeling it almost might snow here. But leave it up there, much better place!

OC and San Diego are great places too. Especially if you are into general fitness activities. Whenever I'm in the San Diego area, it seems like every man, woman and child (and maybe dog) is a triathlete. If we ever move down that way, I'm gonna really have to get my butt in gear!

Good luck!

Eric
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Dec 8, 2012 - 01:23am PT
Otherwise, central valley (Fresno-Visalia area)! You'll understand why once you live here.

Oh yes, the paradise that is McFarland. Hey, it's only 6 miles to Delano from there!
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Dec 8, 2012 - 01:36am PT
Say what you want but I'm going snowboarding Sunday morning and climbing Sunday afternoon!
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Dec 8, 2012 - 01:51am PT
Sounds great!
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Dec 8, 2012 - 03:32am PT
The Bay and maybe even LA are much more doable if you've got an amenable schedule. Weekend warrior schedule, blah.
Consecutive days off that aren't weekends make some areas like the Bay area more acceptable and even attractive.
Having to deal with every other d-bag trying to get out of town on Friday evening gets old real quick. Id' take that into consideration.
Fletcher

Trad climber
The rock doesn't care what I think
Dec 8, 2012 - 04:51am PT
My bro-in-law lives in Clovis, which is next to Fresno. I like it. And it's really close to some nice Sierra places. Just a hop, skip and a jump.

Eric
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Dec 8, 2012 - 05:28am PT
central valley will give you breathing problems after 10 years,

SF has good air but it is hell on earth to drive, and a big earthquake hit there last night, millions of dead people who thought they were somehow immune to plate tectonics,
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Dec 8, 2012 - 08:01am PT
Sierra Foothills, Interstate 80 or Highway 50 corridor. Great access to climbing, skiing, kayaking and good paying jobs. I love it, at 3,ooo ft. I'm always above the valley fog and typcially below the snow line in winter. The transition seasons are fantastic but summer has the heat, our place in Apple Hill is about as low as I'd want to be given the heat.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 8, 2012 - 10:14am PT
California has it all (not really, but close) but its all spread out over a wide expanse. Finding an ideal spot is troublesome.

What is your heat tolerance? Most of the state is too hot for me most and though not humid by Midwestern/eastern standards it Ain't, a dry heat!!

Culturally, the Bay Area is the place to be, Period. But that means weeken warriorhood (great selection of objectives) and gyms.

Living by crags? Eastside/Tahoe, including Reno.
What do you do for work? That's has a strong bearing....
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 8, 2012 - 10:25am PT
DMT, the only thing that could of made that post better is if was in the Russ rant format.
10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Dec 8, 2012 - 10:33am PT
Sorry if I missed it, but what kind of work are you looking for? That will decide your location.
MikeL

climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
Dec 8, 2012 - 11:01am PT
Get the job first if you're just graduating. Unless you've got some super-in-demand career skills (unlikely if coming out of school), your first job will be your best opportunity to point your career. After the first job your degrees of freedom will decline steadily. It's a tough job market anywhere.

(There will surely be those here who will say, "f*ck the job.")
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Dec 8, 2012 - 11:05am PT
What Dingus said. This place sucks.

Go Tuolumne County.
jstan

climber
Dec 8, 2012 - 11:05pm PT
Take the best job.

One thing that I found really works well. Work double time for two months and then do two months off. You get more done plus when you get no break from work the politics seem entirely normal. Politics will be a bummer when you come back but within a week it will become normal again.

Your task structure may require another cycle time but once you are into double time it won't make any difference.

I've been double timing on ST now for six years. All the stuff here seems entirely normal.
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