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The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Dec 4, 2012 - 12:10am PT
the van needed alignment and ignored it thinking "welll, I will have to get it don in CA."

Yeah, alignment will wear down your tires.

Consider the Firestone lifetime alignment. It's good at any Firestone (hold onto your paperwork). Sometimes they do a "less than ideal" job, but it's better than nothing :-). (I have no financial interest in Firestone).


Regarding the spare tire: Sounds like you need a rim that fits your lug pattern.

The tire width isn't as big a deal... The total diameter of the tire is a combination of the width and the wall height -- thin tires can have the same total diameter as regular tires because they are taller. Most spares are much thinner than the full-size tires, and many are smaller diameter.

Yeah, you shouldn't drive long-distance on one wrong-sized tire, but it's a spare. You're not supposed to drive long distance on it anyway.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:05am PT
hey there say, happigrrl, oh no... i been so worried about teddy since i been reading your story here...

finally got to just sit down and go through it...
:O

man oh man, you sure have had a mess, :O and man oh man,
these taco guys sure know a lot!

they are wonderful!


am still praying for you to be safe... and get there in good time...
thankful that you have had safe spots to be stuck at... whewww...

you are sure able to hang in there, that's for sure, without
getting so ovewhelmed that YOU have your flat: as to spirit getting down...


god bless... keep on getting taco help...
prayers for teddy...
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2012 - 10:38am PT
You are overfilling the radiator...level should be about 3/4" to 1" (guessing) below the bottom of the neck...you will believe your system has a leak and keep adding fluid. Guaranteed, it will "use" a quart of coolant every time you drive it!

I only filled it like that this last time because I wanted to have a good gauge as to where the level was at next time I looked. Otherwise I put it to the 3/4 from neck(my van had the owner's manual, which was very helpful and I did read cover to cover right away. I learned some things for this van that went different to ideas I have had about cars from over the years).

A quart of coolant each time? REALLY?

What's a "tire cap"?
Probably the wrong term. The wheels have a lock on a metal plate about 6 inches diameter in the center of the rim, and you insert a tool that looks like a socket wrench end and has a T-like end to help turn it. Same concept as a locking lug nut but not on a plate instead of nut.


I agree that Juan Madiera's Repo Man tip is a classic example of what makes Supertopo the best damned niche topic(Climbing, in case anyone wonders) discussion board in the world. But that tip would be a good one to know if you came across a person with a flat who didn't have the key.

Consider the Firestone lifetime alignment.

I know I do need to get the alignment or I will just eat tires. This one showed me the error of my ways. Will look into the Firestone thing.

Regarding the spare tire: Sounds like you need a rim that fits your lug pattern.

I will ask the tire guys what the deal is. The rim fit onto the lug nuts when the guy put it on yesterday. When he went to put on the nuts, he said "These nuts won't work on this rime." I was surprised about that, but thought it must be that the regular rims are fancy and have fancy long nuts with a covered end, and the spare in a very basic rim, that there might be some issue with the length of the post exposed. That the spare might have a longer length exposed and the nut unable to turn down tight to the rim.



So, back to the coolant issue. After the last post from JLP, I fear I would be taking an unnecessary risk to continue on without having that looked at. The next big town is Albequerque, 300 miles west. In between, very small to towns by name only.

I know that I cannot change the thermostat by myself. Like I said - with a person with a clue watching, yeah I could. But I don't have that. So I am going to ask the tire guys for recommendations and see if I can get the van looked at today.


Teddy is touch and go. I hope he will eat later today because I wonder if some of his weakness isn't due to not eating since Friday night. That is probably wishful thinking, unfortunately.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Dec 4, 2012 - 11:30am PT
I'm really sorry to hear Teddy is ailing. I hope he feels better very soon. Do you think it's the plastic bag eating thing? Did that clear up? Thinking of you two.

And I'm glad to hear you'll get the thermostat thing taken care of there. Delaying action will only create more mechanical (and other) problems and be FAR more costly in the long (and in this case, short) run.
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Dec 4, 2012 - 12:11pm PT
If you are going to Albq, you could have Jeremys Mom look at it for you.































(completely unhelpful post, but it does bump this and anytime you can fit Jeremys Mom into a post, well it should be done.)
locker

Social climber
D#@&%ebag Central
Dec 4, 2012 - 12:20pm PT

"But, I was very nice to the tire guys, and even gave him a little jolly"...






I'm too tired this morning to work that one...

But BOI oh BOI it's a doozy!!!...

LOL!!!....

Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Dec 4, 2012 - 12:21pm PT
Ha! Locker - I saw it earlier and thought all sorts of very immature and pesky posts (a specialty of mine). Alas, I was working and too tired to be a pest. :) Still, I got a chuckle out of it too.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2012 - 12:58pm PT
That was meant to get a few laughs out of people (unless "a jolly" means a LOT more than just giving some guy, who you both know it ain't going there, a feeling of at least being recognized as a man.


Teddy saw the vet yesterday and she did not feel there was an obstruction in his abdomen from the symptoms (not tense in the abdomen, able to keep down water, and also a rectal exam). She said he is passing whatever is in him through, though there was a bit of duty which was hard...within reach. But to know for sure would be x-rays or a Laparoscopy, which would be the next step if that avenue would be pursued. I know it is a multi-thousand dollar operation if there were an obstruction and I hope people will not say cruel things at this time when I say I would not go that route. I love Teddy beyond anything and he has been as much a therapy dog for me as a regular dog.

She gave him injections which reduce vomit potential, and he hasn't vomited since. I gave him the first pill version this morning. He also got antibiotic injection yesterday, and his first pill this morning. He got most of those pills in him. I covered them with salmon oil to make the spit out more difficult and he luckily started chewing them as he attempted to get rid of them.

I put out food for him a while ago and he did come look at it twice, so that is a good sign. But he hasn't eaten any. Maybe he will later today, or after the next set of pills.

If I had to say what is going on, I would guess that Teddy is having Kidney failure, or a better situation would be that he has Diabetes. He was not drinking massive amounts of water though in the recent past though, which is a symptom in both those. Another for Diabetes is big appetite, while still losing weight. The vet said another possibility is Pancreatitis, which can happen when dogs eat strange things. Teddy would eat anything and though I tried to limit his ability to do so, he was always tricky about getting at the things to late for me to do anything.

So, yeah. I am having a tough time right now.


neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Dec 4, 2012 - 03:46pm PT
hey there say, happigrrl...

i was wondering too, if there is some kind of fumes that may be bothering teddy... dogs etc, are suseptable to that...

but after reading that the vet took care of him already, they
got the situation handled, i see..

will still be praying for teddy...

JLP

Social climber
The internet
Dec 4, 2012 - 03:54pm PT
One more thought:

Pets are attracted to the taste of antifreeze...

http://www.2ndchance.info/antifreeze.htm

eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:10pm PT
One more thought:

Pets are attracted to the taste of antifreeze...

http://www.2ndchance.info/antifreeze.htm

GOOD DEDUCTION!

Happ. . . think about that and how Teddy's feeling.

?

OXOXO
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2012 - 04:24pm PT
I know that antifreeze is poison for dogs(or any living being), but am glad it is mentioned because that is something a lot of people do not realize(also that dogs are interested in it's taste which makes it even worse).

I keep the jug in a spot he cannot get to for SURE and am always careful to it wash off if even the smallest dribble gets on the outside.

I got a referral to a guy who can look at the van, but haven't called yet as I was just so overwhelmed earlier, after writing about Teddy, that I could barely function. I will make the call soon.

He got a little walk and peed just now, and was stronger at the start. But he tired easily, which of course I understand. I am careful to try to get him a little work to keep moving, but not push him at all. He looked at the food again, but not a nibble yet. He does seem to be less uncomfortable than yesterday, middle night and early this morning and that is good. But when he goes to his water, the intake is bordering on too much. Bordering, but he is also not going to it regularly, so may be that he is taking more during the fewer times he drinks. Also, I guess it would really be the amount he would drink at a time if he was in good shape, and I am being hypervigilent, so maybe there is nothing to worry about with that.
Juan Maderita

Trad climber
"OBcean" San Diego, CA
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:08pm PT
My understanding is that in recent years, most or all automotive antifreeze has an added bittering agent. Too many pets, children (and spouses or ex-spouses) were dying.

There were Federal bills which never passed. Not sure currently, but it may be up to individual State legislation. Does anyone know the details?

Happy, when you asked "Really?" to my comment about losing a quart of coolant, I suppose that I didn't make it clear with my quotation marks around "use." To be clear, if you overfill the radiator to 1/8" below the neck, then as the engine warms, approximately 1 quart of coolant will expand and be ejected out the overflow tube and onto the road. So, you would lose a quart of coolant each time you overfill the radiator.

Hope your Teddy is getting well.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:51pm PT
So, you would lose a quart of coolant each time you overfill the radiator.
This is not correct. As the coolant gets hot and expands, it goes into the reservoir, changing it from the "Cool" fluid level to the "Hot" level. When the engine cools, it will draw the coolant back into the radiator/cooling system. This assumes no leaks and a working radiator cap. There should in fact be no air in the system - just coolant. That would be a sign of a problem. A correctly functioning system will purge itself of air, through the cap and into the overflow, then draw in coolant from the reservoir until the air is displaced.
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:53pm PT
Happ. . . I wasn't thinking about Teddy licking the jug of the stuff, I was more thinking of the possibility of him licking it off the ground where you park.

?

Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:56pm PT
This is not correct. As the coolant gets hot and expands, it goes into the reservoir, changing it from the "Cool" fluid level to the "Hot" level. When the engine cools, it will draw the coolant back into the radiator/cooling system.

Normally that would be true, but as stated up thread, there is no reservoir, just a radiator.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Dec 4, 2012 - 06:18pm PT
hey there say, happiegirrrl... not sure if this can ease your mind,
but STILL keep checking teddy, but:

read the medication warnings and notations:

some will say that your pet will be more thristy than usualy...

some will say this is normal...
some will say, appetitite will either increase or decrease, as well...

hard stuff to go through when 'babies' are sick..
and one the road, as we all know, how much worse...

hugs and best wishes and more prayers...
also, keep an eye out, on who helps you too, as--some folks can
have bad intentions, as well...

keep in touch with folks by phone, etc, as you do all this...




man oh man, will you HEAR A GEAT CHEER AND sighs of relief! when
you reach the finish line,:O :)
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Dec 4, 2012 - 06:23pm PT
I hate to ask, but how old is Teddy? Wish him and you well. Having a sick pet is no bueno.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2012 - 07:15pm PT
EKat - Teddy wouldn't get the opportunity to lick something like that up. He is on a leash "in public" at almost all times, and he is never out of my direct sight.

He does snag food on walks - usually it is hidden in the grass and Teddy knows how to maneuver his way over and because of the retractable leash, he is like a frog with a foot long tongue - zzzzziiiipppp! And the food is in his mouth. Licking up a fluid wouldn't happen. Of course there is always the possibility, but on the "maybe this" list, I don't believe it is probable. But since I did tell the vet he got "something" unidentified on the night before he became ill, I guess it could be under the UFO(Unidentified Food Object) category which is already a possibility.

edit: Crimpergirl, Teddy is 12, 13 on January 1st. I went through almost this whole year saying he was 13, but his given birthday(because we don't have actual date) is January 1st, 2000
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 4, 2012 - 07:31pm PT
Oh, Happ. . . I'm glad Teddy hasn't had a chance to get into that stuff.

SO HAPPY FOR THAT!

I really hope you figure out how to get him back up to speed. . . poor little guy. . . everytime I see a photo of him I was to squeeeeeeze him and give him MAJOR DOG LOVE!

GOOD LUCK!

ox
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