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monolith
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albany,ca
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Nov 30, 2012 - 06:45pm PT
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Your getting close Big Mike. Keep looking. There's a higher def version available from slightly different angle. I think the cam is in one of those crossing guard boxes.
Still, those who want to believe it was a missile will claim it proves it was a missile, those who claim to see the tail will claim it was a plane.
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Chief
climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2012 - 06:48pm PT
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Chief is upset that 9-11 conspiracy theories are met with "withering ridicule, character assassination and indignant dismissal."
I have not posted any "withering ridicule, character assassination and indignant dismissal" in response to 9-11 conspiracy theories. At least not in this threat, and at least not yet.
I am choosing to take the "high road" and give the conspiracy theorists the respect they deserve,
Graniteclimber,
I'm not upset.
My tongue in cheek comments were about the way some of us react to statements or opinions we don't agree with here on Supertopo and in particular, that we seem to be prone to drifting far from what would pass for informed discussion or civil discourse.
My comments weren't directed at you or anyone in particular and if I've given unreasonable offense, I apologize.
I reviewed your comments and struggle to see pictures of hamsters and lovely naked gals as "the high road" with respect to this topic.
The picture of Yosemite Falls is edifyingly off topic though.
Fascinating stuff here.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:02pm PT
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I reviewed your comments and struggle to see pictures of hamsters and lovely naked gals as "the high road" with respect to this topic.
Ya, but they are funny! ;) bump is a bump right?
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Chief
climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2012 - 07:02pm PT
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Some of Graniteclimber's "higher ground"
Off topic but most edifying!
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:05pm PT
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Who said that?
I can't find it either. MN seems the first to say it.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:06pm PT
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MN seems to be creating strawmen, then bravely knocking them down.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:08pm PT
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I see a tail with smoke streaming behind.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:10pm PT
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Monolith. I can't find it. Everything I can find says those are the only two videos.
Did you watch the second one I posted? If you look at the damage that the second plane that hit the towers caused, vs the damages to the pentagon, how can you even think that a plane hit it??
Your whole premise is that the planes caused so much damage to the wtc buildings that they failed, even though they were designed to withstand said impact. Then another plane somehow miraculously hits the pentagon and it only made a hole, no major fire damage....
That's wildly inconsistent.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:12pm PT
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I put a gif of it above.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:14pm PT
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That's just a 5 frame edit.. Who knows what's been done to it, but it looks more like a f16 or fighter jet than an airliner. Those toll booths are pretty close to the pentagon too, so an airliner wouldn't be that small...
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:15pm PT
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True, but there will only be 1 frame of the plane, as it's going 500mph.
Sorry it's not up to your standards. Dream away.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:22pm PT
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The structure collapsed about 45 minutes after the crash.
Here's some composite pics before the collapse.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:31pm PT
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Chief,
It is disrespectful of you to dismiss the hamster conspiracy theory so offhandedly. You should give the hamster conspiracy theory the respect it deserves. It is just as valid as the other conspiracy theories.
The gals were for Locker and to not have anything to do with the 9-11 attack, but I'm glad you enjoyed them.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:33pm PT
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Damn, Dr. F's giving his hamsters assault rifles. I'd better start arming my team.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:33pm PT
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Thanks Mchale's. just posting it like i see it.
Monolith How can you compare the damage between wtc and the pentagon if you contend that an airliner hit it?
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:35pm PT
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Someone's ruining my hamster post with wide pictures! LOL
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:36pm PT
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Entirely different architectures.
One's a 110 story all steel structure.
The other is much shorter concrete structure.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:37pm PT
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Ya but this one was on topic so I think we're in the clear...
Shouldn't there be some wreckage in your picture?
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Nov 30, 2012 - 07:39pm PT
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Whose to say there isn't?
How did you become such an expert on crashes?
What do you want to see? A tail sticking out of the building?
You will find pics of people picking up airliner debris on the lawn.
Yeah, I know, it's all faked up.
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