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Tfish

Trad climber
La Crescenta, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2012 - 03:06pm PT

Firstly, TFish, glad you got your gear back, even at a price of some sort. Did you do the right thing? The wrong thing? Should you have told the cops?

It wasn't even that bad of a price. Who else can say they bought a huge rack for $43. I don't even care I lost my #5, it cost me like $2.

I think I did the right thing. The guy knew where we were camping and if I ratted him out he could have come looking for me. Or I might have spent a few hours the next day talking to cops and filing a report instead of climbing some really fun stuff.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Nov 27, 2012 - 03:09pm PT
Rare is the situation where a cop makes things better and even then often too late.

Cops help people all the time--it just does not make the news most of the time. Ever been stranded on the side of the road and had a cop stop and help out? Ever watch YOSAR rescue someone of the Captain? (YOSAR is run by cops.)
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 27, 2012 - 03:13pm PT
Yeah most SAR groups are under the authority of LEO's .. but they are not generally the ones doing the work. RESCUE is not normally the day to day job of the average LEO. I did not say that the popo is NEVER a good thing.. just RARELY.

The fact remains that the greatest threat to my life and all i care about in it has been LEO's. Just a fact and one many others can relate to.

Coming from a mountaineer that should say something.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Nov 27, 2012 - 03:22pm PT
I know you Riley. I also like you. I was just pointing out the other side that most don't see, are not aware of. It's an ugly job so when they do a traffic stop... They have all that stuff in their head. It's wise to understand that and know why some of them are on edge. If you keep that in mind, I bet most folks can deal with them better. I really believe understanding the police can go a long way for figuring out good ways to deal with them. It is a win, win situation. Yes, it's not black and white. Nothing in life is... Not all cops are good, that is for sure... Yet... Even with bad cops, bad attitude only makes things worse. Plus, a bad attitude will make a good cop go sour on you. It's a really bad and pointless thing to do either way. You for sure won't win.

Peace.
AFS

P.S. Yes. Bachar LOVED Santanas. I swear that man thought he was on the steps of heaven while eating there. :)

Good post Ana!
I have always been one to recent even trying to get along with authority - "why is it my job - why are you even in my face - why am i even talking to you right now." I have no problems unless they start f*#king with me and asking the same question over and over or talking like an as#@&%e or asking me to do little bullshit things that are belittling. I just got a ticket for a head light while driving back to Texas and when i go to sign the ticket real fast the cop says " hold it yourself sir" Just his way of being a dick and trying to enforce his power over me - i can feel that sh#t and i hate it....I have a sort of deep instinct for freedom - very libertarian that way - not an intellectual thing - I understand the reasons of laws and regulations intellectually - but in my gut I am all "live free or die. Like I said I probably have issues.



So what did Bachar think of the PO PO?
I know he didnt like the white man to much...lol
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 27, 2012 - 03:27pm PT
So what did Bachar think of the PO PO?
I know he didnt like the white man to much...lol


Those are two interesting questions!
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 27, 2012 - 03:37pm PT
LEOs are like the Immune system of our society. If you are threatened with real sickness, you need them. Sometimes they win, and sometimes you get sick anyway.

But in situations where there's not much crime, they become like an auto-immune disease like Arthritis, Hashimoto's, or even aids. They attack the people who they are supposed to protect because their main function is to protect by attacking without the best discrimination of what to attack. When it's your job to bust crime, your idea of sucess in your job in our society that emphasizes competition, is to find something to bust.

Thus our prohibition style drug war as turned regular citizens into criminals and LEOs into the enemy. Really sad for both the LEOs and the people as otherwise they could be white knights for all

PEace

Karl
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 27, 2012 - 03:39pm PT
I like the analogy, Karl. Good one.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Nov 27, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
good one Karl!!
Gal

Trad climber
a semi lucid consciousness
Nov 27, 2012 - 03:50pm PT
+3 Karl.
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Nov 27, 2012 - 03:50pm PT
I ate at Santana's at least twice this weekend.

Better than a lot of the alternatives...
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Nov 27, 2012 - 03:52pm PT
Ana - fatty just texted me..

He said I need a fatrad tooling
And his LASD jacket needs to be posted right now..

If anyone has a pic of that moth eaten, rat bitten jacket - post up..
hahaha
locker

Social climber
Nov 27, 2012 - 04:00pm PT


photo not found
Missing photo ID#275877
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rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Nov 27, 2012 - 05:58pm PT
Joshua Tree has the look and feel of a small town. After living here for many years I've noticed that peoples impression seems to be on par with the town of Mayberry.

The real truth however is in stark contrast. The Morongo Basin as a whole is a welfare state. We also have some very big city problems with regards to drugs and theft.

I know because my wife and I had our entire house cleaned out by meth addicts while we were in L.A. so she could get chemo.

Visitors (like the OP) let their guard down and do foolish things like leaving belongings either very visible in their cars, or just outright in the open. Then act surprised by the results.

Law enforcement has their hands full here. The night this apparently happened there was indeed a shooting in Yucca Valley. One person is in the hospital in critical condition.

Joshua Tree is actually a very large area geographically. This means it is a very big area to cover.

Just some perspective to clear some of the outright bullshit that has been posted to this thread.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Nov 27, 2012 - 06:14pm PT
Indirectly related to this - a couple months ago I had an expensive mountain bike stolen from the basement of the office building where I work in downtown San Francisco. The thief managed to get into the bike lockup even though it was key coded. He was recorded on security video cam cutting the lock off and leaving with my bike. I burned the video to CD, printed a couple frame grabs of the thief and dropped it all off with SFPD. I expected to never hear back, but to my surprise got a call a week later from a police inspector saying he was distributing the video for officers to view. Shortly after that I got another call saying 3 officers had recognized the thief, who is a known burgler and meth user, and that the DA was issuing a no bail arrest warrant. I called SFPD today to find out what was happening with the case. They told me the guy was arrested 6 days ago and arraigned this afternoon on charges of grand theft for stealing my bike. He's also facing charges of violating parole.

Unfortunately, there's little chance of getting my bike back, but its assuring to know this guy is doing time as I type and not getting away with it. Quite impressive followup by SFPD. I'll be seeing this crook in court.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 27, 2012 - 06:15pm PT
I ain't against ass kickings - in fact I am very pro ass kicking.
Just do the ass kicking on folks who deserve an ass kicking.
Not innocent citizens.

Problem is, that is in the eye of the beholder.

I seriously doubt that there are many people in bad parts of their lives that are made better by getting beaten. for example:

Having grown up pretty poor as I did, you don't completely trust the police. I was raised to be polite, answer the questions, and move on. But when you've been unfairly tooled a couple of times, you see "that crap" has something to it, and that the police aren't an unbiased mirror merely reflecting back our own bad attitudes.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 27, 2012 - 06:24pm PT
i woulda tooled the livin f8ck outta ya ALL! ;-)


Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Nov 28, 2012 - 06:33am PT
http://www.alternet.org/education/shocking-details-mississippi-school-prison-pipeline
Hoffbrow

Trad climber
California
Nov 28, 2012 - 06:55am PT
Cops in Joshua Tree are LAME.... I was heading out of the park years ago... stoped at Sams market for some junk food,....... backed my car up 8 feet and THEN turned on my headlights instead of turning the lights on before backing.... (note, this is all in a parking lot) they pulled me over and never asked for any iD... The yanked my car door open and with hands on thier pistol yelled GET OUT OF THE CAR! and asked if i was DRUNK... the last beer i drank was about 20 years ago...... I called their watch commander and told him that his men are THUGS WITH NEPOLIAN COMPLEX.

WHAT A BUNCH OF TAX WASTING DNUT EATING LOOSERS.... really what a bunch of sh#t.

PS glad you got your gear back and lets set up a sting opporation and catch those meth heads in the act
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 08:01am PT
his men are THUGS WITH NEPOLIAN COMPLEX

Did you mean Neapolitan? Why can't they leave out the faux strawberry?
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:28am PT
Cops in Joshua Tree are LAME.... I was heading out of the park years ago... stoped at Sams market for some junk food,....... backed my car up 8 feet and THEN turned on my headlights instead of turning the lights on before backing.... (note, this is all in a parking lot) they pulled me over and never asked for any iD... The yanked my car door open and with hands on thier pistol yelled GET OUT OF THE CAR! and asked if i was DRUNK... the last beer i drank was about 20 years ago...... I called their watch commander and told him that his men are THUGS WITH NEPOLIAN COMPLEX.

Officers routinely look for certain infractions including failure to maintain a single ane, driving too slowly, and driving without headlights to begin a DUI investigation.
(http://www.nicholsandpina.com/dui.html);

According to the CHP who gave me a sobriety test b/c I stopped to piss on the side of the highway, the headlight thing is a red flag in CA as well.
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