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Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
May 7, 2013 - 03:30pm PT
Garlic kills bacteria and fungus. Anything fermented helps restore the right bacteria. If you're off of dairy try dill pickles, sour kraut, kimchee, miso and other fermented soy products. Refrigerated supplements in capsules work well too.

The amount of fish oil seems to make a difference. My big breakthrough was reading that large amounts of fish oil cured inflammatory bowel disease when nothing else did. I started taking 5 big capsules (2.5 mg) twice a day and got instant relief. Like you all my tests were negative and the doctors then tried to tell me it was psychological. If I had told them it went away with fish oil, they would have concluded that for sure.

Another very important aid is folic acid, especially if you've had giardia or any other malabsorption problem. Try 5 mg for a few days and see if that helps. There's something called tropical sprue which is poorly understood that affects the small intestine and is cured by folic acid (you don't have to be in the tropics to get it).

Another thing they check for is cryptospiridium. It's a parasite like amoebas that is hard to get rid of. The problem is, the diagnosis is only as good as the lab tech. I've never had a western lab tech find any of this yet in Nepal and India they do. It depends on what they're used to looking at. If they don't find anything, the western doctors won't treat you. State Dept. and Peace Corps doctors do three tests and if they're all negative and you're still sick, they treat you anyway.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
May 7, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
Have you been checked for giardia? Your symptoms are similar to giardia (and a bazillion other things).

A link. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/giardia-infection/DS00739/DSECTION=symptoms

Susan

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
May 7, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
Wow, an amazing amount of voodoo, pop medical mythology, and the usual rasher of anti-science in this thread. But the C. Difficle thing is very real and there are folks working on a less socially inconvenient response.

http://scienceblogs.com/thepumphandle/2013/01/17/clinical-trial-of-fecal-transplant-gets-impressive-results-synthetic-poop-is-in-the-works-2/

But you really do need a specific C. Difficle diagnosis to bother with a fecal transplant as it's not a general cure.

Have you been checked for giardia?

If he had Giardia he wouldn't be typing away on the computer, he'd be doubled up in a ball cramping away on an ER table, or at least I was - it certainly isn't a subtle infection.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
May 7, 2013 - 04:18pm PT
HealyJ said:
"fecal transplant"

Whoh. I'm be into supporting a "don't ask don't tell" policy on this one. I suspect that there are many supporters with web sites and photos for the devotes, NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.... I'm sure.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
May 7, 2013 - 05:39pm PT
If he had Giardia he wouldn't be typing away on the computer, he'd be doubled up in a ball cramping away on an ER table, or at least I was - it certainly isn't a subtle infection.

Sounds like you had it really bad. I had it for several months before Dx...uncomfortable symptoms...but nothing like you had....ick...

Susan
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
May 7, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
Didn't know you could have it and not be basically dying. Happened when I lived in Francestown, NH where the town's water supply was not what you'd call sophisticated in a place where we were surrounded by beaver ponds on all sides.

Everyone I knew who got it (like 5% chunk of the town) had more or less immediate and dire symptoms which required an ER visit. Grim.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
May 7, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
Couch: Whoh. I'm be into supporting a "don't ask don't tell" policy on this one.

Yeah, I suspect it would be easier asking a spouse or sibling for a kidney.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
May 7, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
Didn't know you could have it and not be basically dying

I noticed you said you had it in NH...my Dad, who lives in Pa, got it a few years ago and suffered as you describe. It became very rampant around the area he lives, near Lake Erie. Others there suffered as you described. I was here in Ca when Dx. Probably got it from one of the dogs I foster. I wonder if the strain here on the west coast is more mild...who knows...I was pretty uncomfortable but nothing like what you went through.

Susan
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
May 7, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
sounds' like to much gym climbing
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
May 7, 2013 - 09:55pm PT
Moose....try drinking a half gallon of maple syrup and smoke a pack of cigs and you'll be good to go...
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
May 7, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
did I hear u say your working?
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
May 7, 2013 - 10:07pm PT
then u will truly be a woodfords local
monolith

climber
SF bay area
May 7, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
The usefulness of probiotics explained. Don't believe the industry hype. Only 20% of the bacteria in our gut can by cultured.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/probiotics/
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
May 8, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
You can learn a lot in these threads, I thought Candida Infection was the bass player for L7...



More on topic, lactose is one thing, but my wife is allergic to casein, one of the proteins, so there is no free pass for sheep or goat dairy. Wheat, soy, and eggs too, but all the dietary shenanigans are worth it to feel better. She'd just always assumed everyone felt awful after they ate.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
May 8, 2013 - 09:30pm PT
I will try fecal transplant, just need to convince the wife to be the donor. She is not enthusiastic to the idea and neither am I. Needs to be done, though.


There's some kind of irreverent humor I'm thinking here. Can't believe your wife wouldn't want to give that particular gift that she could forever remind you of~!

;-)

Karl
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