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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:13pm PT
Philo, you sound like a bitter southerner shortly after the civil war...

Sorry the Palestine is controlled by Hamas. Maybe you and your folks you know should mass up and head on over and throw HAMAS out!

But We would do the same thing if we were in Israels place. Only worse. We would have CIA , Seal teams and drones up their wazoo 24/7. After the shock and awe displays. The ONLY reason that the death toll isnt greater in Israel is because of superior defenses and bad shooting by hamas. When they get better stuff this will of course change. EVEN during the cease fire, hamas urges new strikes. Iran has them on a puppet string to destabilize Israel. Iran HATES the USA- do the math..
Sorry for your family. Ive lost all i owned too- to evil intent as well.

However, the math is the math. Iran wont stop, therefore Hamas wont stop.
This has been going on for how long?? Do you hate Obama now for NOT voting for their statehood? :>)
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:20pm PT
Ron we know what in your chicken hawk heart you would do if you were an Israeli.
But I ask what would YOU (Ron) do if you were a Palestinian?
What means of defense and resistance would you allow yourself?

Please for once answer A SIMPLE QUESTION.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:27pm PT
Sorry the Palestine is controlled by Hamas. Maybe you and your folks you know should mass up and head on over and throw HAMAS out!

That's BS because Israel was treating them just as bad when Abbas, the most moderate leader the Israelis could have hoped for, was in charge. That's why they threw him out, because things weren't getting better.

And it's telling that as a direct result of Palestine taking the non-violent diplomatic move of getting observer status with the US, that Israel is moving forward with over 3000 new homes on the most sensitive part of Palestinian land, and withholding 120 million dollars that are clearly due to the Palestinians. The head of the UN says the new settlement homes would practically doom a two state solution

While there were times, like when we were killing the indians and moving them to reservations, when war and violence was a successful way to expand your empire. let's work to make those days a time of the past.

Otherwise, the tools are too dangerous for nations to play that game any more. Ironic that the Palestinians are "terrorists" when they try to defend their own land with rockets made with fertilizer. Give em f-16s, tanks, and advanced weapons and they can resort to targeted military strikes like the Israelis allegedly do with the approval of the US

Peace

Karl
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:28pm PT
If I were a Palestinian over there now, and didnt fully support hamas launching a thousand rockets a year while using the citizenry as cover, I would GTHOOT. I would seek refuge no matter where i had to go but i wouldnt be there UNLESS i was of the same mind set as Hamas. People are rioting right now in Egpyt by the thousands over the newly place brotherhood regime- they are fighting and killing over it. Good for them actually- they seem smart enough to not want this brotherhood in power over them. Let the Palestine's shed that terrorist financed influence, and peace will be had, and perhaps after that even some concessions..But sadly they ALREADY plan more and worse to be...



Karl, do you support terrorist states..?

Do you remember those news casts of the PLO?

Why is it they already call to break the treaty?


answer: Iran





philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:32pm PT
Ron do you know the people of Gaza are in a prison they are not allowed to leave except by death.
So if you were invaded and occupied you would run away with your stubby tail between your legs?
And if you were not allowed to flee what then? Capitulate?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:35pm PT
No philo, i do what ive done here before-- and fight.

Some terrorist factions wants to take Nevada to launch missiles - ill be the first in line to track em down and shoot every last one of the bastards.

But i WONT - cant with ANY integrity to my country , support any known terrorist state. I wont trust ANY dealings with any muslim brotherhoodlum.



philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:39pm PT
So you can tacitly lend legitimacy to their desperate struggle against OCCUPATION which they have an Internationally recognized right to do but you would give them no means to fight back?

How would you fight back against F-16s, Tanks and helicopter gunships?
You know nothing of the daily plight of the Palestinians. You sir are an Anti-Semite.

You likely don't even know the definition of Semite.

But i WONT - cant with ANY integrity to my country , support any known terrorist state.
Well you clearly support the Zionists of Israel. You Hypocrite.
Did you know that prior to the Naqba the Palestinians had the largest population of Christian Arabs in the Arab world. Christians man, educated and sophisticated Christians. They were the second victims of Jewish terrorist gang violence. The first victims were indigenous Jews who had lived in peace with their Arab neighbors and did not agree with or support the actions of the immigrant Jews.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:48pm PT
yeah yeah,, and my Choctaw relatives were on the trail of tears.

THAT SUCKS,, but it is also history.

Iran was once Persia. The USSR was once russia . The north was once fighting the south.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:50pm PT
Well what can I say as a proud American other than "Only gud injun is a dead injun".
It's all in the past so it doesn't matter.

And thousands of crude and ineffectual rockets From Gaza are history too. If it doesn't matter so why keep making an issue about it?
dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:51pm PT
Looks like the Egyptians love Obamas choice on who to side with. Our government has no idea how to deal with foreign affairs weather they are Republican or Democrat. We ourselves need to find out for ourselves what these people in other countries "really" want. Trusting government alone, weather it's Obama or Bush, obviously is getting us in more trouble. Right now for all intensive purposes the people of Egypt believe the "people" of the US picked this as their president and this is what their president is doing. And you wonder why some hate America so much. What they don't realize is that many Americans understand what they are going through and sympathize, but since our government appears to speak for us, it appears we are supporting this new regime. This government does not speak for many of us. It has it's own agenda. I guess it may speak for 51% of us.

Credit: dirt claud
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:53pm PT
BINGO!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:58pm PT
Credit: philo
Peace IS Possible.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Dec 4, 2012 - 07:00pm PT
so philo argues about how great obama is, got it.

he argues about how great hilary is, got it.

and then he goes off on obama's foreign policy and increases in defense spending provided to israel.

keep informed bilo, YOUR government is throwing your palestinian buddies under the bus.

bilo, you might be missing something in your diet. your thinking is all over the map there buddy.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 4, 2012 - 07:14pm PT
But i WONT - cant with ANY integrity to my country , support any known terrorist state. I wont trust ANY dealings with any muslim brotherhoodlum.

The sad fact is the U.S. has a long history of supporting terrorists around the world. We try to direct their terror at our enemies. The truth is, if you want to subvert another state, you find the craziest fundamentalist whack jobs in their country and then give them the arms, training, and money with which to wage terror. Afterwards, of course, you are left with well funded, well trained, and well armed psychopaths. F*#kin ugly!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 4, 2012 - 07:16pm PT
zakkly Jeebs... We really need to switch gears...
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2012 - 08:36pm PT
Hey KochEye you really lack reading comprehension skills. Obama is the best President the Palestinians ever had to deal with. And I have been completely consistent.
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Dec 4, 2012 - 08:43pm PT
I know cabbies and wait persons in the cities hosting the political conventions claim that Republicans are much more generous tippers than Democrats, and tax returns disclosed by candidates for public office almost uniformly show the Republicans pay a higher percentage of their incomes to charities than do Democrats.

John, the waitresses and bartenders I know say the worst tippers are in Newport Beach.
dirtbag

climber
Dec 4, 2012 - 08:45pm PT
Hawkeye, your guy lost.

You hear me boy?

Your man LOST.


So SUCK IT rightie BIOTCHES...suck it HARD...suck it DEEP...then SWALLOW.
dirtbag

climber
Dec 4, 2012 - 08:53pm PT
Your average Republican

Credit: dirtbag
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 5, 2012 - 03:29am PT
I would bet my life on one thing. If Bluey was born in Palestine, he'd be all for kicking ass, just like he is here in the US, where nobody took our homes or dropped bombs in our neighborhood, or restricted our every move.

Karl, do you support terrorist states..?


Dude, this notion of "Terrorist state" is a ploy by Israel and major powers to differentiate between major military powers, who kill 10x as many women and children as the "Terrorists" they call it Collateral damage.

Our drones strikes kill more innocents in a year than the Palestinians have killed in 10 years. They just call them "Militants" no matter what

I support Justice on all sides. It's sad when injustice creates a situation where more injustice is born

Peace

karl
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