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doc bs

Social climber
Nov 12, 2012 - 07:53pm PT
Every now-and-then the pit had nice energy, when nice people stayed there.

I always wondered - the owner has a backhoe. There is sand for concrete. Plus talented wanderers of diverse backgrounds and a strong-bodied labor force.

Why dont they built a PIT toilet???

Then it wouldnt be such a looming public health threat...

Social climber
Nov 12, 2012 - 08:47pm PT

"Also Locker you did suggest Dave should squeeze GU neck. You seem more interested in stirring the pot rather than adding anything helpful. If you threaten violence even joking be man enough to admit it."...

There is nothing to admit...

This is the EXACT quote...

Notice that I did not say that Dave himself should do the mighty SQUEEZE...

"As to Ground-up???...

Someone like Mayville should find him walking on a dirt road, and give him a GUD neck SQUEEZING...


It was mostly posted to let him know I was onto who he was...

But I couldn't help myself from playing it up since he was taking every bit of bait I could feed him...


What I find ironic is how he tried to make me out to be the bad one for giving him so much crap...

How does it work again???...

He can be a TOTAL dick to Jstan (Who IS in fact a "REAL CLIMBER"), then when he catches crap for it, he in turn turns it on me as if I was the one being the jerk...

Sure I took on the jerk role...

But only to defend Jstan as he certainly DID NOT deserve to be given ANY sh!t from ANYONE for having done the work he did...

And that is the bottom line!!!...

Hopefully this crap is done and over with...

But if it isn't, I'll fuking ride it until the end...

That is a fuking FACT!!!...



Trad climber
Josh, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2012 - 09:01pm PT
Well Doc, that would be nice, but there are codes that govern that. We're pretty out there already with regards to zoning etc.

I'm working on getting a donation site set up and talking with the port-a-potty folks to see if we can get a deal that would make things happen for the season only.

When you coming back our way? It would be nice to see you again!

Hilde says hi!


Social climber
Nov 12, 2012 - 09:15pm PT

Hey Coz...

Serious question...

Do you think what ground-up was posting toward Jstan was being "Helpful" to the pit situation???...

Just trying to get a fix on your perspective here...


Trad climber
Nov 12, 2012 - 11:36pm PT
Why dont they built a PIT toilet???

Then it wouldnt be such a looming public health threat...

Hey, when the Doc speaks, its a prescription for success! Why not a composting toilet?

Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
Nov 12, 2012 - 11:55pm PT

Ground Up, do you think "real" climbers haven't stayed there? What's a "real" climber to you anyway? One that has enough time on their hands to head out there on a Wednesday and secure a weekend campsite in the park? One that can afford motel rooms?

The Pit has been there for years. It's not like it's a secret to anyone who climbs or any of the neighbors.

I would think with GU's level of vitriol he's for sure a troll but jstan seems to think he knows who this is.

Anyone who "yells" online in all caps has to be questioned for trolling.

Justthemaid, please hand him a J and a hug. :)
Sioux Juan

Big Wall climber
Costa mesa
Nov 13, 2012 - 06:38am PT
a pit a pit....... hmmmmmmmm.......sometimes it has been !

Jim Henson's Basement
Nov 13, 2012 - 06:53am PT
Hey Robert..


Nevermind.. I'll send it in a PM


Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Nov 13, 2012 - 07:34am PT
SCMA dues are $45 per year. That gets you a guaranteed campsite at Sheep Pass two weekends a month October through May, guaranteed sites in the valley three times a year and Tuolumne twice a year, plus/minus.

Who need a Pit?

Mountain climber
Northern surly
Nov 13, 2012 - 08:01am PT
I think GU is real and his thoughts are accurate. I don't think anyone is beating up on poor old Jstan the angel of trash. Some people just don't like self aggrandizing, i

No one is saying that playing den mother to some skid who can't pick up their trash is a bad thing, just the constant blah blah blah about it, grates a little.

Ever heard of Cindy Bransford or Mary Ann Kelly? These women have done tons for the Park with barely a word publicly.

Jstan, claims that I'm out of touch after living in JT since 86. Yes it's still my home, although I've been on the road the last two years. I know the owner of the Pit most of the long timers and the area quite well,

I think u guys are playing with fire, if someone with any power stumbles on this thread, Wally may get served, and folks will have to pay to camp elsewhere.

I'm not the bad guy just trying to help the broke climbers keep their crash pad.

Social climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 08:06am PT


I actually DO agree with you, that running the Pit as it is, may well end up being a nightmare...

Also a real good chance of someone eventually being sued...

And I agree that it should be kept on the "Down low", etc...

But it is neither yours, nor mine, and Wally has opened it to whomever...

As to Jstan and how he openly has posted his efforts???...

Well since Wally has opened the pit to whomever, and the gig is totally out in the open, then Jstan has every right to openly post as he does and what he does...

Notice how many people think it's a good idea, as to how many that don't???...

Again, I agree with you on it being kept quiet...

But your buddy Paul tearing into Jstan is just flat out a really sh!tty thing to do...


Hey Coz...

no, you're NOT the "Bad guy" IMO either by the way...


Mountain climber
Northern surly
Nov 13, 2012 - 08:16am PT

Not sure what ur talking about?

I'd say people need to grow thicker skin around here, and get a freaking clue. Wally included.

People have had flop houses and compounds for years without all this public brouhaha.

I'm out... I know again... I care tons about JT and well, as a parting gift, Robert and Jstan try to be more covert next time, I've seen this movie before and sometimes it ends bad.

Social climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 08:19am PT


Not sure what ur talking about?"

Check your email...


Trad climber
los angeles
Nov 13, 2012 - 09:16am PT

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Jon Beck

Trad climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 10:38am PT
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It ain't dirtbagging, its career advancement!

Big Wall climber
Nov 17, 2012 - 08:50am PT
Jstan u remind me of this guy

Social climber
Nov 17, 2012 - 09:03am PT

When are they going to put the neon sign out front???...

Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Nov 17, 2012 - 11:30am PT
I was just in Nomads picking up some cams and there was some strong looking angry dude looking for someone on this thread....
I don't know sh#t about what is going on here.....
But this guy looks pissed and has muscles on his eye lids..

Nov 17, 2012 - 11:31am PT

Social climber
Nov 17, 2012 - 11:33am PT


Just messing around...


I think it would be funny as hell...

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