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eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Dec 1, 2017 - 04:50pm PT
5k you say? Sounds like a dream.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 1, 2017 - 04:54pm PT
You may! Iíve signed Dr Frank N Furter to run it - I donít do fumes well.

BTW, Iím rockiní some oxycontin as we type! Total n00b but it is SWEET!
That was while I was getting the really gud shite earlier today! <br/>
Hom...
That was while I was getting the really gud shite earlier today!
Home now, hence only the Oxy. :-:
Credit: Reilly
David Knopp

Trad climber
CA
Dec 1, 2017 - 05:09pm PT
Reilly i hope its nothing serious and that you can sit back and relax and enjoy the good shite!!!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 1, 2017 - 05:16pm PT
Reilly i hope its nothing serious

Thanks, Dave, been putting it off for a while but
I can't tell you how liberating a gud lobotomy is!
I feel more a part of the Super Topo community now!
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Dec 1, 2017 - 05:22pm PT
If someone's getting "the good shite" for something non-serious, the practitioners should be questioned. Opioid addiction is serious, and it often starts with prescriptions from doc. Not suggesting Reilly is apt to abuse - just saying; the days of popping painkillers like Oxycontin like they are candy is over, except in cases when docs are unethical.


...............

As for 5K parcels in the outskirst - I have been looking. Problem is building to code and following zoning regs brings the cost up considerably. One can only "camp" on a parcel in San Bernardino County 3 days out of 30.



FWIW - I am hoping to look at some Rec Cabin designated parcels when I am there this winter. One with remnants of the shack preferred. I'll be there about mid December(I'm in Eastern Kansas today). If anyone has some leads, I'd appreciate them!
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Dec 1, 2017 - 05:31pm PT
One can only "camp" on a parcel in San Bernardino County 3 days out of 30.

Credit: Russ Walling

I got a lotta dough that says code enforcement is not going out there on day 4 and roust you and your multimeter. Park in the middle and buy a camo tarp and you will be golden.
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Dec 1, 2017 - 05:43pm PT
I've been looking in that area and it's a possibility(though I haven't saved up as I should have, and have been buying beads along the way on this trip like mad), but I would really like one w/Rec Cabin designation, and those are going going, almost gone, with all the LA people buying them and turning into AirBnB's.

WBraun

climber
Dec 1, 2017 - 05:47pm PT
I can't tell you how liberating a gud lobotomy is!
I feel more a part of the Super Topo community now!

LMAO .....
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 1, 2017 - 05:48pm PT
If someone's getting "the good shite" for something non-serious, the practitioners should be questioned.

Thanks for the advice! The doc had a noice multimeter so Iím pretty sure he knew what he was doing. The Wife was also a colleague of said sawbones up til a few months ago so sheíll cut me off as indicated. 😫
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Dec 1, 2017 - 05:54pm PT
I didn't actually give you any advice.

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 1, 2017 - 06:26pm PT
Perfect place for meth production...the market is certainly there.
jstan

climber
Dec 1, 2017 - 06:46pm PT
Holy cow!

Ask a realtor where all the JT houses costing 30K have gone. Landers has none. Here in south JT (which realtors call Mulholland drive) there is nothing available. And there, if it were only average it would still run 45K/acre. In a north JT area where the Team is cleaning up trash, a resident showed me a typical 1950's hovel that just went for $220,000.

What the hell is happening?

Well to start we have artificially low interest rates. The price of a place means nothing. It is the monthly cost, or PITI, that determines what people can pay. This is a bubble. The FED printed four trillion dollar bills in 2008 assuming everyone would spend those dollars. They didn't. They all went into bank accounts. Now investors, foreign and domestic, are worried about inflation and want to get into real assets. Watch the readings for consumer confidence. I think they are based upon nothing. But they determine everything.

As to the Pit. The 1.2 million dollars is not important. Not if you plan to build 40 houses.

Personally I don't mind what's happening to the Pit. Simply put, I don't have to drag out the sh#t that was being dumped there anymore. And, at the same time, suffer absurd claims that I was doing it because I had some agenda. Holy fuk!

I am otta here.

Two or three years ago I went to Indian Cove to pick up the trash in the group camp sites. Beyond belief. I found one site where the garbage from the fire pit had been tossed into the bushes. A few weeks ago I took another look. Incredible! The NPS has made a miracle happen there. Spotless. I don't know what the NPS has been drinking. Saw the same thing in Yosemite this last Facelift. Took me a half hour to find one damn cigarette butt.

Think I have died and gone to heaven.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Outside the Asylum
Dec 1, 2017 - 07:21pm PT
The Joshua Tree Clean Team is surely responsible for this astonishing development. Clean properties = higher prices. But somehow I bet that you're not getting a deserved percentage of the increased prices.
jstan

climber
Dec 1, 2017 - 07:25pm PT
Actually, realtor signs soon show up on about half the properties the Team has cleaned. But as we all know, correlation does not prove cause.

Tomorrow morning I have two mattresses and a refrigerator to pick up.

Big change I have not mentioned. In central JT the businesses behind Tortoise Island have begun to maintain that island. Huge difference.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Dec 1, 2017 - 07:44pm PT
I would have guessed for 1.2 million, you could buy that entire town.

aldude

climber
Monument Manor
Dec 1, 2017 - 09:14pm PT
Hey jstan...I have a house for sale in monument manor. 2 bd/1ba 900sqft on 2.5 acres one mile from the entrance. Special supertopo price : 160k cash !!
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Dec 2, 2017 - 05:16am PT
Now you know why I want to find a (preferred)parcel while I can. I started watching last spring, when a friend turned me on to the Tax Sale. I've learned a little, and don't know much, but one thing I see is that for any spot that has so much as a water meter or electric line, the prices are rising faster than Trump's chances of impeachment. Well, almost that fast(sorry, Trumpeters; it's getting about time to face the music that he is a criminal, and has been one of the sort that consorts with the Russian Mob - jayzus!).

The thing about the zoning/code - The concern is a neighbor who complains. They are of two types. One is the type that wants to see their home remain safe and attractive and able to sell if need be. The other, more problematic, is the type who likes their privacy and intends to keep it. They have an emotional claim on the open acreages surrounding their parcel and anyone thinking about stepping foot there had better mind their p's and q's. Besides, improvements made on the downlow now will have to be dealt with if a tome comes when the place needs selling.

Nonetheless - I AM hoping to get started in finding a little spot for myself. I won't build because I can't afford to, but a little derelict shack I could view as sculpture, with a view to the horizon would be cool.

Lovegasoline

Trad climber
Brooklyn, NY
Dec 2, 2017 - 10:43am PT
Nonetheless - I AM hoping to get started in finding a little spot for myself. I won't build because I can't afford to, but a little derelict shack I could view as sculpture, with a view to the horizon would be cool.

Then why entertain buying property?
You'll need to pay for the property plus all expenses related to upkeep, maintenance, services, legal, and worries associated with it. Half the year you can roast in your desert shack. When you come to your senses and scram, some meth head will end up squating in your shack, or you'll return to find a local chapter from the Solar Lodge of the Ordo Templi Orientis has been performing their rituals inside it. And you'll still be liable.

Put some cash into an upgraded cush rig (and quality multimeter) that meets your qualifications and your standard of living and headache quotient will improve dramatically. If you feel the unrelenting need to be indoors in J-Tree, and absolutely cannot manage to eradicate that desire from your midstream, do a $50 airbnb for 30 days out of the year. If you want just a patch of land to park your rig and live unmolested in it for a spell, pay a property owner a marginal fee to park your rig on their land. Then invest whatever cash you have. You'll be way ahead of the game vs. owning a lot of sand.

And you'll liberate yourself ... of both the worries and the dreams.
jstan

climber
Dec 2, 2017 - 08:11pm PT
Because of the time I spend picking up litter I get to see a lot of interesting properties. One really heartbreaking incomplete house is just sitting there partially vandalized. No one would want to live there but it is far away from the hordes of people and if one would landscape the property with native trees it could be really nice, That it was built with love is clear if you just look at the construction. One of the few times I have wanted to be in my thirties again. I'd write out a check for it tomorrow. But I have to face the facts. I probably won't be around long enough to self-build even on the two stellar lots I already have.

Those wishing to buy now need to sit down and plan for how they will deal with being underwater on a mortgage. In 2008 a lot of people in JT were underwater by half the value of their mortgage. Stressful. Very stressful.

Having an exit plan is critical for those investing in real estate. Or anything else for that matter.


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