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Nov 11, 2012 - 09:08am PT
Well, I have joined the ranks of the perplexed. G-U is not who I thought he was.

You can never tell about chick magnets. A fellow built a house near me with a 50' lap pool and a sauna in hopes of keeping his wife here. She left and he ended up following her. You may be right. But I tend to doubt spreading broken glass around would have done the trick.
east side underground

Hilton crk,ca
Nov 11, 2012 - 09:14am PT
"one man's chick magnet, is another man's garbage dump".....Classic
ron gomez

Trad climber
Nov 11, 2012 - 09:25am PT
That last sentence LOCKER......couldn't agree more. Not that I have anything against either of them, but neither is on my list of listening to constructive criticism from. I'll go out and help and I ain't a real climber anyway, you've seen me climb!!!! Or lack of it these days.


Social climber
Nov 11, 2012 - 09:29am PT

"That last sentence LOCKER......couldn't agree more."...

I'm TOTALLY with you on that one!!!...


Plus apparently to be a "REAL CLIMBER"...

you also have to be a "REAL ASSHOLE"...


Trad climber
Nov 11, 2012 - 09:30am PT

This will be my last post on this subject


Nov 11, 2012 - 09:33am PT
If one is breathing one may expect to get crap. It is not a problem however, as crap is something you are quite used to.

You do need to start worrying when you don't get crap. That means you need to get a mirror and check to make sure you are still breathing.

Social climber
Nov 11, 2012 - 09:38am PT
Something else people SHOULD be used to...

and that is when someone is giving someone else CRAP that isn't deserved...

said CRAP GIVER get's raked over the coals for being a total DICKWAD...

It's a FAKE climbing COMMUNITY thing...

This has been an announcement made by:

"FAKE climbers, for FAKE climbers"...


Social climber
Nov 11, 2012 - 10:02am PT

"Maybe You, Dick ,Tucker and Mayville should all get together and Put up a Poser Rap Route
You could call it ( we wish we were real climbers not posers)"

~~~ Ground control to major FUKED UP!!!...


I'm GONNA do it!!!...

Just have to find some PILE with a bunch of loose sh!t on it...

NEW ROUTE NAME = "We wish we were real climbers not posers"...



Social climber
Nov 11, 2012 - 10:29am PT

Heard down the GRAPEVINE that this route was RAPPED in...

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Mighty Hiker

Vancouver, B.C.
Nov 11, 2012 - 02:01pm PT
It sounds like all that training at the FaceLift is paying off, and that jstan is turning into an archaeologist. Wow!

For ground-up and other members of the peanut gallery, I can only quote the famous adage "Better to light one candle, than to curse the darkness". Why don't you get out and do something useful for our community, before yapping?

jstan is a respected and long-standing part of the climbing community. Whether or not he actually climbs now is irrelevant - although I climbed with John at JT only a year or two ago. Once a climber - in the true sense of the word - always a climber. And it's in any case irrelevant to the community and environmental question as to stewardship of the Pit.

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 11, 2012 - 02:04pm PT
What would LEB say?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Nov 11, 2012 - 02:07pm PT
"Stannard is not going to be standing all that much longer."
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Nov 11, 2012 - 02:30pm PT
Never have I seen a guy who just wanted to clean up some garbage take so much crap from people.

JStan thanks for your efforts.

no sh#t..this world is f*#ked

thanks John

Social climber
Nov 11, 2012 - 02:33pm PT

"no sh#t..this world is f*#ked"...

In this case not so much...

Just a COUPLE of douchebags giving Jstan crap...

Instead of giving him crap, and all that "Real climber" bullshi!t, maybe they should get out there and actually HELP, instead of just tearing into him for doing a GREAT job...

But I DOUBT they will...

They're "REAL CLIMBERS" and it is beneith them...


Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 11, 2012 - 02:34pm PT
"Stannard is not going to be standing all that much longer."

Clearly more delusional Tea Party drivel, or is that dribble?

Jstan is and will continue to stand tall and proud for a loooooong time, period.

Nov 11, 2012 - 02:39pm PT
I was kidding. Lois did not say that. Sorry about that.

Not to worry. My morale suffers only when there is no action.

As you were.

Social climber
Nov 11, 2012 - 07:29pm PT
Sometimes, people can be really good rock climbers and really nice in person, but have no idea about internet etiquette.

It's not that GU is an as#@&%e - I'm sure whoever he is, he is a cool dude. It's that it is weird talking on line to people if you don't it very regular. He strikes me as a guy who isn't a "forum dude" (me) and just wants to say his piece and have that be that. I can choose when not to be offended, sticks and stones...

Social climber
Nov 12, 2012 - 08:28am PT

"Hey Ground-up...

Just read your four emails...

Though you didn't say it...

it looks like you're attempting to apologize or explain or whatever...

Sure, I'd actually ENJOY meeting up with you today and such...

Big problem there being that I currently live in Colorado...

Jstan emailed and informed me that you also emailed him...

I didn't ask the content of that email and Jstan didn't share it...

But I am GIVING you the benifit of the DOUBT and assuming that you have since apologized to him for being so OFF with your comments...

For now...


You JUST fuked up and spoke out of turn is all...

No REAL harm done!!!...

Someday you and I should head over and CHOKE Dave...

He got me GUD one day and when I tried to get him back...

I discovered that my hands wouldn't even fit around his fuking neck...



EDITED to add:

There are MANY things about "the Pit" that I AGREE on, with you and COZ...

Just didn't dig the unwarranted attack on Jstan..."...


Mountain climber
Northern surly
Nov 12, 2012 - 02:05pm PT
Just to be clear, my old friend Dick, is incorrect I'm not complaining about the Pit, just the opposite I'm suggesting it be taken off line to protect it from closing.

Also, quite frankly as just the maid so well pointed out, people living in compounds in JT get weird.

I'm only suggesting that a bunch of dead beats living off Wally's land, should pick up their trash or make their own way in life.

Also Locker you did suggest Dave should squeeze GU neck. You seem more interested in stirring the pot rather than adding anything helpful. If you threaten violence even joking be man enough to admit it.

If on the other hand it's used as a place for Wally's real friends to crash then why does it have to be anymore that my pad was BITD? Or the many people who let friends crash at their pad. Keep it clean, put up a gate or shut it down.


Nov 12, 2012 - 02:44pm PT
Every chance I can, I have been going down to the Pit talking to people and telling them of Robert's guidelines. Communication is the key at this time. I think ST has served that purpose well. When more needs to be put on ST I plan to do so. Right now the need is not high.

Why do I respond here, then?

Scott, you are out of touch. I have not met any deadbeats at the pit. Indeed people have asked if they can make a contribution. I have declined, saying all people need do is read Robert's guidelines, treat the area gently and leave it as clean or cleaner than it was when they first came. Without being critical I would ask you to consider viewing this matter very calmly. Calm and considered action is what we need. Robert has made it clear the area will be closed if those needing the area do not give it the care it needs. Mind you emphasizing the possibility of closure itself tends to cause people to get emotional. We don't need more emotion.

One individual posting on ST has seemed to be assuming I propose to benefit financially out of my efforts. We all share the same desire to have the area clean and treated well. I am not even sure anyone could benefit.

So I would ask everyone to dial it back and let success have a chance to succeed. That's all we need.

The future is in the hands of the people using the area.

For me, the next parcel to the West looks like it will be the ultimate challenge. The 5.16 of trash picking.
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