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Trad climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 02:36am PT
Why dont they built a PIT toilet???

Then it wouldnt be such a looming public health threat...

Hey, when the Doc speaks, its a prescription for success! Why not a composting toilet?

Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
Nov 13, 2012 - 02:55am PT

Ground Up, do you think "real" climbers haven't stayed there? What's a "real" climber to you anyway? One that has enough time on their hands to head out there on a Wednesday and secure a weekend campsite in the park? One that can afford motel rooms?

The Pit has been there for years. It's not like it's a secret to anyone who climbs or any of the neighbors.

I would think with GU's level of vitriol he's for sure a troll but jstan seems to think he knows who this is.

Anyone who "yells" online in all caps has to be questioned for trolling.

Justthemaid, please hand him a J and a hug. :)
Sioux Juan

Big Wall climber
Costa mesa
Nov 13, 2012 - 09:38am PT
a pit a pit....... hmmmmmmmm.......sometimes it has been !

Jim Henson's Basement
Nov 13, 2012 - 09:53am PT
Hey Robert..


Nevermind.. I'll send it in a PM


Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Nov 13, 2012 - 10:34am PT
SCMA dues are $45 per year. That gets you a guaranteed campsite at Sheep Pass two weekends a month October through May, guaranteed sites in the valley three times a year and Tuolumne twice a year, plus/minus.

Who need a Pit?

Social climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 11:06am PT


I actually DO agree with you, that running the Pit as it is, may well end up being a nightmare...

Also a real good chance of someone eventually being sued...

And I agree that it should be kept on the "Down low", etc...

But it is neither yours, nor mine, and Wally has opened it to whomever...

As to Jstan and how he openly has posted his efforts???...

Well since Wally has opened the pit to whomever, and the gig is totally out in the open, then Jstan has every right to openly post as he does and what he does...

Notice how many people think it's a good idea, as to how many that don't???...

Again, I agree with you on it being kept quiet...

But your buddy Paul tearing into Jstan is just flat out a really sh!tty thing to do...


Hey Coz...

no, you're NOT the "Bad guy" IMO either by the way...


Social climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 11:19am PT


Not sure what ur talking about?"

Check your email...

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 01:38pm PT
I can not stop laughing after reading that CL post for Hair Fairies. A winter in the Pit ought to look good on any Hair Fairy's resume.

It ain't dirtbagging, its career advancement!

Big Wall climber
Nov 17, 2012 - 11:50am PT
Jstan u remind me of this guy

Social climber
Nov 17, 2012 - 12:03pm PT

When are they going to put the neon sign out front???...


Nov 17, 2012 - 02:31pm PT

Social climber
Nov 17, 2012 - 02:33pm PT


Just messing around...


I think it would be funny as hell...


Trad climber
Nov 18, 2012 - 03:50am PT
burchley do you own rei or whats the problem causing you to impotently make threats? actually all members own a little piece and can choose to return as they see fit. REI dramatically overprices their goods and coerce and blackmails people to join the co op. they refuse returns from non members of rei brand items without a receipt. rei brand items fall apart after a month. they make members wait months for a merchandise credit they lie and call a dividend. sales items are not included and credit card purchases only earn 8%.
If they care about members then we should get 10% off at the register.
if they don't want returns they can change the return policy.

OP-thanks for keeping the JT pit open.

Trad climber
Nov 18, 2012 - 04:06am PT
SCMA dues are $45 per year. That gets you a guaranteed campsite at Sheep Pass two weekends a month October through May, guaranteed sites in the valley three times a year and Tuolumne twice a year, plus/minus.

Who need a Pit?

Anyone who isn't friends with an scma member. attempting to join the scma takes months at best and involves lots of subjective red tape unless the candidate has a buddy who is a member. in that case they are ushered in and can skip the tests and evaluations. scma is a closed private club not open to the general public.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Nov 24, 2012 - 08:22pm PT
Friday night at the pit, gotta say, it was a better experience than anything in the park. A little road noise till the bars close. Was a lot of people there, maybe 10 vehicles, all climbers and all very nice and interesting, no supertopians however. Larry was the unofficial host, he clued everyone in to the guidelines. with one exception everyone there was a Pit noob. Although everyone had heard of the pits prior reputation, they all had praise for the new improved pit

I credit jstan and crew for the positive vibe he and the others have created. Thank you very much, I tried to pick up trash in the morning but the area was devoid, plenty in JT at the day use areas however. Broken glass in the rocks is becoming very obvious.

Nov 24, 2012 - 09:32pm PT
Thanks very much for your report on the area that cannot be named. Robert and I have been going down to talk to people but the effort you all make to bring new people up to date is critical. Thank you Larry for what you are doing.If we all work together on this, Robert's guidelines will belong to everyone. It is even a good excuse to welcome new people and to get acquainted. From the people I have talked to I get the impression people are finding the area much more enjoyable. That was what we were hoping for. Fantastic.

A while ago George Land of the NPS said I should hang tight on my cleanup efforts in the Park. Just as happened in Yosemite, NPS staff are working out how to provide monitoring of cleanup efforts so that Cultural Resources can be protected. The last three years at Facelift there has been very effective monitoring and educational efforts. As we all do what we can to keep the park beautiful we do need to give the NPS our best efforts to keep historical stuff from being lost.

Broken glass is a tremendous problem and it is not at all clear that complete restoration is possible. No matter how small the pieces one picks up, you see glints of reflected sunlight. Heavy foot traffic over a period of years does reduce the reflections. But getting it all up is still a hope.

Any glass colored by the sun or whose manufacture appears unusual should be left in place. In general if you find broken crockery or dishes, those should be left and the NPS person at the gate told of the find.

Thank you. Great news!
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
moving thru
Nov 24, 2012 - 10:33pm PT
Hey Jon Beck, I climbed in Jtree today with Wendell and Woody's daughter, Tia, and friends doing some of Woody's favorite climbs as a memorial to him. Wish I'd known you were here.

Jstan, howdy. If I'm here and you need any pick up help email me. I keep two trash grabbers in the car.

Happigrrrl, are you here in JTree. I'd like to swing by and see you if you are.

Cheers, lynne

Trad climber
Jan 6, 2013 - 11:28am PT
Hello everyone,
Not a regular but hoping to make some friends once we are in the area, gonna be at jtree for the latter half of winter. The email from the pit website hasn't worked in a while is there still stipulations on who can stay at the pit?

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 6, 2013 - 01:41pm PT

"is there still stipulations on who can stay at the pit?"...


People from Alaska are strictly FORBIDDEN!!!...


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