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FrankZappa
Trad climber
80' from the Hankster
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Sep 27, 2012 - 06:02pm PT
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The dude asked the park rangers if anyone had turned it in.
The rope was fixed on the Leviticus anchor/Genesis crux/Trinity cracks variation, and was well out of the way of Genesis pitch 1. Dude was up there every day the rope was fixed. It was clearly not abandoned. The anchor on Leviticus is not easy to get to. I've been climbing in Eldo for 20 years; never been there. Anyone done that route and been there?
The only "local politics" were those expressed on MP by people with Internet names. Nobody talked to him in person. He's climbed in Eldo for 25 years and probably done more routes there than anyone. He was just out having a good time on a route he had never done.
I just want him to get his rope back and am curious who stole it and what their story is.
I don't think he did anything wrong except answer to a thread on the Internet. Sure, he was a wise-ass, but he's a wise-ass, and who takes unnamed internet people seriously anyway?
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Sep 27, 2012 - 06:05pm PT
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Some meat jerkers tried to steal shippoopi's TR rig placed at the ramp on right ski track in josh.
He popped around the corner, 3rd classing up to pull the anchor and was all like:
"WTF BRO?"
Oh sorry, thought it was abandon?
NO WAY BRO, now put my sh#t back!@!@
All while we were drinking beers 40 feet below.
Of note, If I ever found out who took ANY of my in-situ gear, I would make sure they were not able to leave the crag. Either driving or walking.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 27, 2012 - 06:13pm PT
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Maybe it's just me, but I think that leaving gear at crags is lame.
I can understand draws on a really steep route, but it bugs to see ropes hanging around. Yeah it takes time to hang 'em, and yeah in the winter, folks like to have the TR solo laps pre-rigged. But still, don't be upset if there are folks out there who don't buy into having litter at the crags. And stuff left around overnight is just that, IMO.
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tbones
Sport climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Sep 27, 2012 - 06:50pm PT
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Uh oh this is quickly deteriorating into the same thing as Mountain Project. If any of you want to be entertained head over there and read up.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Sep 27, 2012 - 06:57pm PT
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...and who takes unnamed internet people seriously anyway? That really is the beauty of all this.
I don't like thieves either. However, in this case, I believe the actions of whoever took the rope are "less bad" than EDJ's.
Given all the details, it doesn't seem the rope was taken out of pure greed, yet it was left there out of pure selfishness and EDJ has been unrepentant about it.
I'm not opposed to the $2-300 ding, to set an example for him and the community. It's pretty much the same money as a Wyoming I-80 20+ over speeding ticket.
If I was in possession of the rope (I'm not), I'd toss it in the used rope bin at the BRC. I have no use for other people's things, and I don't think he has an inherent right to know who did it or what happened to it - he abandon it, leaving no note or anything. A week's a week, no matter how you want to spin it. I don't think leaving your sh#t at the crags for a week, then feeling entitled about it, is acceptable.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Sep 27, 2012 - 09:13pm PT
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Hankster. When you were head pointing those scarefests did you leave fixed ropes up?
Just curious. And my money is on you for the fight.
Prod.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 27, 2012 - 09:28pm PT
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LADIES and gentlemen...announcing the world's most famous, make that infamous, and currently missing, rope....hold your breath (drum roll, angels serenading) THE Genesis Rope, right here (somewhere) in (climbing central) the Peoples Republic of Boulder.
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miwuksurfer
Social climber
Mi-Wuk
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Sep 27, 2012 - 10:07pm PT
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Jesus Christ, nobody in Boulder, CO has an old rope this dude can use to TR solo?
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Sep 27, 2012 - 10:14pm PT
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1st world prancer problem.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Sep 27, 2012 - 11:07pm PT
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Ol' Skool
Trad climber
Oakhurst, CA
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Sep 28, 2012 - 07:24am PT
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wbw, lemme get this straight-
they stole a sling, 2 biners and a nut... and left two cams?
Retail values and my mad Colombo skills tell me we're dealing with a noob here... It coulda been worse- be glad you weren't left hung out to dry on one cheap piece.
There's a special room in hell for gear thieves.
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FrankZappa
Trad climber
80' from the Hankster
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Sep 28, 2012 - 11:28am PT
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Dude reports missing rope to Rangers.
Rangers have seen rope on climb.
Rangers see Dude up on climb.
Rangers know rope belongs to Dude and he is using it.
Dude has done nothing wrong.
He knows this. Rangers know this.
Everyone knows this (except Chief and JLP, who really, really, really want to believe Dude did something wrong...).
Rangers did not pull the rope.
They are not pleased that someone stole rope.
Thief has upset Dude.
Thief has upset Rangers.
People see things in Eldo.
People read forums.
People do not like thieves.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Sep 28, 2012 - 11:37am PT
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WBW,
Are you saying that you were climbing Blind Faith when this gear was stolen? Where were you on the route that you cound not see the anchor? Wow that is f*#ked up. Glad you are alive.
Hankster etal,
Has projecting on in-situ gear ever been acceptable behavior in Eldo?
Prod.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Sep 28, 2012 - 11:50am PT
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If he was so in the right, what not leave a note on the rope with a phone number?
How should the person who took it down be compensated for their time?
A ranger on your side means you now have 3 people in your camp. Everyone else including Donini is NOT in your camp - enough said there. Keep living the fantasy, though.
Keep leaving ropes out there as well. Maybe I'll score the next one. I prefer Sterling 9.4-9.8, though the BW ropes in the same size are okay, too. Be a dude and see if you can accommodate that.
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