I Like the Atheist Life (OT)


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High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
Aug 30, 2012 - 11:05am PT
I remember when peeple thought you were just a punk.

People? Wasn't that mostly the girls (and those defending them) because I wouldn't give em a free pass on their supernatural beliefs, lol!

Evangelizing science, YouTube gets the modern good news out to the masses...

No free passes for girls, they need to know science in the modern age as much as the boys. More so, if it's going to be a woman's world. -Which seems to be the way it's trending, sorry boys. ;)

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 30, 2012 - 12:01pm PT
I finally gave myself permission to say I didn't believe in god after listening to this wonderful monologue by Julia Sweeney:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqh53RCkURQ (This will take to part one of 13 parts. Part 2 will appear on the upper right of your screen while you're watching part 1, etc, etc.)

It's also available from Amazon to download to your iPhone or whatever. Makes a great road story. The whole story last about 90 minutes.


Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2012 - 12:15pm PT
Was thinking about this today (and it's been touched on already... in both threads):

Christians who afford me the respect for my personal beliefs that they demand for themselves are just fine by me. But the problem is that the very nature of the religion requires that they not afford that respect, and that they diminish any beliefs or ideologies that differ (Exodus 20:3, among others... He's a jealous god!).

The Christians who do accept my atheism -- ie don't "pity" me, try to convert me, or assume I'm going to hell -- are the ones that don't seem to conform to mainstream Christian ideas. They are not the literal-interpretation types. To me that's about personal disposition more than ideology.

I specifically wanted to mention Lynne 'cause she's such a wonderful person. The topic came up with us exactly once, and when I said something like "I believe we all follow our own path" we moved on. I have many Christian friends like this and it's the "model" of Christian acceptance and tolerance that I grew up with.

Although I goofed in not seeing the other thread, my intention was that atheists should have an opportunity to stand on equal footing with Christians, and that being nasty and intolerant in the "I Like the Christian Life" thread is crass and inappropriate. I may poke fun at Christians all the time, but much of that is opposition to the kind of extremist, absolutist thinking that doesn't just affect me on a personal level, but either drives or justifies (depending on your view) on-going and costly global conflict.

Trad climber
East Coast US
Aug 30, 2012 - 12:19pm PT
Here's the whole 2 hour Julia Sweeney - Letting go of God in one file.


One day I'll have to load this onto a portable player and listen to it on a plane flight.
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Aug 30, 2012 - 01:49pm PT
I'm all for having the freedom to choose how one approaches the mystical/spiritual. Slamming other's beliefs won't win you any arguments and shows a lack of respect especially in any "appreciation thread". Appreciation threads are meant for those who want to share the stoke about a person, belief, place, etc. If I don't share the stoke on a particular thread I see no reason to crap on it (not that I always follow my own advise)

Bill Callahan (Smog) wrote a beautiful song about his personal quest.


Trad climber
Black Rock City
Aug 30, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
I'm not an atheist but I am so grateful for a thread that spells it right. Thank you! I am an intolerant speller, I wish I wasn't --but I am.

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 30, 2012 - 03:57pm PT
Thanks Gunkie. It was listening to this on a road trip that led me to believe that, finally, it was okay to not believe in god.

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 31, 2012 - 12:02am PT

The Warbler

the edge of America
Aug 31, 2012 - 12:07am PT
How many ways have you seen Daphne misspelled?

Social climber
Aug 31, 2012 - 12:18am PT
Daphne: spelling is at least forgivable...or maybe not?

Haha! You believe in correct spelling! I was raised a rabidly-proper American English, and yet I can forgive.

Where is the tolerance when one needs it? :)

Here is a link to remind you how far down the rabbit-hole one can go:




Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 31, 2012 - 12:24am PT
She doesn't understand the freedom inherent, in, punctuation, though, especially periods.

Edit, I mean, commas,!

Trad climber
Black Rock City
Aug 31, 2012 - 01:48am PT
^^^ you know how your use of commas drives me crazy! argh!!

Seems the most preferred ways of misspelling Daphne are

I was also raised in a home that demanded perfect English-- the intolerant belief system i acquired in that home has been hard to shake.

On the other hand, my father was an impassioned atheist. What happened to me?

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2012 - 02:07am PT
My mother was an English professor. She taught me that language is flexible and evolves.

It's the message that counts, not how it is conveyed.
Patrick Sawyer

Originally California now Ireland
Aug 31, 2012 - 05:43pm PT

And yes, the English language is one of the most flexible. Though I love French and the lyrical italian, just for example, English has proven to be the most adaptable, not such a bad thing, which is why I suppose it is the international language (apologies to Francophones).

As a copy editor/sub-editor, I have to be pedantic in my job, but as a writer, screw it, conventions go out the window.

From an avowed atheist, and I ain't going back.

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 31, 2012 - 06:49pm PT
People in foxholes are better off keeping their heads down than praying.

Aug 31, 2012 - 06:49pm PT
The sound vibrations of the English language still has no real potency.

Take for example the word water.

That word when vibrated is not water.

There are words when sound vibrated that are absolute when vibrated without offenses.

Those words will act just like medicine will act whether one believes or not.

This why I say the mundane gross material mental speculators have no potency.

And they don't .......

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Aug 31, 2012 - 06:55pm PT
Werner, I have to admit that when I start to read some of your posts the voice in my head suddenly shifts to José Jiménez.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Aug 31, 2012 - 07:01pm PT
What happened to me?



Trad climber
Black Rock City
Aug 31, 2012 - 07:17pm PT
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
Aug 31, 2012 - 09:52pm PT
I especially like climbing with atheists.

You can tell all the politically-incorrect, off-color religious jokes you want (recall Pate's best jokes thread) and you can talk all you want about religions and their nonsense in the style of George Carlin open and freely without having to always check your language.

Climbing with hardcore supernaturalists whether Christian or Muslim wouldn't ever be my first pick. (Birds of a feather flock together, it's only natural.) But maybe I'll have to at some point when I'm older - beggars can't be choosy. :)


Thought for the day: If Clint Eastwood can talk to an empty chair, then why can't Christians pray to an ancient carpenter whose bones have long turned to dust?
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