Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban, loss of Tour de France

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jammer

climber
Oct 11, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
to say haters gonna hate and that Lance was just that good is to miss some fundamental points and implications of the whole thing IMO. As far as I know, it wasn't that cycling was dirty and that this was inherently bad. It's being spun that way by certain people. That is another issue all together.

The problem with Lance as I understand it was that he was essentially ok'd by Cycling's "governing body" to cheat significantly more so than the other competitors. From some of the stuff I have read, I am left with the impression that Lance was just at best a middle of the pack cyclist getting a lot of support, so much so that he was unbeatable. What made him special was his "story" and what he could do to bring attention and therefore money to cycling, not his actual cycling ability.
Lloyd Campbell

Social climber
St. Cloud, MN
Oct 11, 2013 - 02:14pm PT
Almost anyone would agree that there was (still is, IMO) a problem with doping during the "Lance" era. For that, he probably only deserves extra scrutiny for his doping because he had big $$$$ and that meant he had the best drugs, advice and options for using them. It would be even more scandalous if there was evidence that the UCI itself was complicit (McQuaid is his own version of a**hole) in covering up Lance's doping positives.

Lance isn't getting trashed because everyone's a "hater". He is getting trashed now because he acted like vermin and was a borderline sociopath towards anyone that dared to disagree with his version of the truth. And he deserves it (again, my own opinion). The dude walked away with $100 million that he cheated and lied for...what's not to hate, frankly?
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Oct 11, 2013 - 03:01pm PT
He's still got one sponsor.

Credit: The Larry
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Oct 11, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
Hehe... Organic Cherry Blossom... for organic dopeheads...
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