Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban, loss of Tour de France

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SalNichols

Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
Oct 11, 2013 - 06:05am PT
Name someone in that era that was clean. Hell, name ANYONE from the Merkcc era forward that was clean, ans I mean of ANY drug, because amphetamines were in common use for decades in the pro peloton.
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Oct 11, 2013 - 11:17am PT
a feel good read-
Cyclist Gino Bartali honored by Holocaust museum


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/cyclist-gino-bartali-honored-holocaust-museum
mitchy

Trad climber
new england
Oct 11, 2013 - 11:30am PT
Haters gonna hate. Lance Armstrong was railroaded, just because he was kickin' everybody's ass for so long. It's too bad. He was a hell of a cyclist.
jammer

climber
Oct 11, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
to say haters gonna hate and that Lance was just that good is to miss some fundamental points and implications of the whole thing IMO. As far as I know, it wasn't that cycling was dirty and that this was inherently bad. It's being spun that way by certain people. That is another issue all together.

The problem with Lance as I understand it was that he was essentially ok'd by Cycling's "governing body" to cheat significantly more so than the other competitors. From some of the stuff I have read, I am left with the impression that Lance was just at best a middle of the pack cyclist getting a lot of support, so much so that he was unbeatable. What made him special was his "story" and what he could do to bring attention and therefore money to cycling, not his actual cycling ability.
Lloyd Campbell

Social climber
St. Cloud, MN
Oct 11, 2013 - 02:14pm PT
Almost anyone would agree that there was (still is, IMO) a problem with doping during the "Lance" era. For that, he probably only deserves extra scrutiny for his doping because he had big $$$$ and that meant he had the best drugs, advice and options for using them. It would be even more scandalous if there was evidence that the UCI itself was complicit (McQuaid is his own version of a**hole) in covering up Lance's doping positives.

Lance isn't getting trashed because everyone's a "hater". He is getting trashed now because he acted like vermin and was a borderline sociopath towards anyone that dared to disagree with his version of the truth. And he deserves it (again, my own opinion). The dude walked away with $100 million that he cheated and lied for...what's not to hate, frankly?
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Oct 11, 2013 - 03:01pm PT
He's still got one sponsor.

Credit: The Larry
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Oct 11, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
Hehe... Organic Cherry Blossom... for organic dopeheads...
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Nov 22, 2014 - 10:09am PT
Hey cycling fans,
Anybody here seen this new 2014 documentary "Lance Armstrong: Stop At Nothing"?

A very well done, revealing look at his career and the dark underbelly of the sport.
Includes recent interviews with the main players involved and related historical video, audio and phone tapes.
Lance does not appear with a recent comment or interview.
Saw it on EXTRHD this morning,
check it out.

coolrockclimberguy69

climber
Nov 22, 2014 - 10:39am PT
"just keep him on the bike!"

McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Nov 22, 2014 - 11:29am PT
This is a good read.

Clif Bar's Solo Climb;

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2004/12/01/8192527/

" In the late '90s, when few cared who won the Tour de France, Clif Bar had sponsored Lance Armstrong and two dozen other members of the U.S. Postal Service cycling team. But in 2001, when Armstrong came back from cancer to nail his third Tour win, PowerBar offered Armstrong $400,000 a year, 10 times what the team had been getting from Clif. Clif couldn't match it and lost the deal. "
Gunkie

Trad climber
East Coast US
Nov 22, 2014 - 03:17pm PT
Lance isn't getting trashed because everyone's a "hater". He is getting trashed now because he acted like vermin and was a borderline sociopath towards anyone that dared to disagree with his version of the truth. And he deserves it (again, my own opinion). The dude walked away with $100 million that he cheated and lied for...what's not to hate, frankly?

Bingo. Had Armstrong been contrite, come clean and taken full responsibility early in this final investigation, things might have gone differently for him in the long run. He's toast, now. I can never see him garnering any public support ever again in any form.

Aside from whiny LeMond, have any of the past TdF winners (pre-Lance) come out and trashed him? I'd imagine that they are fairly guilty of riding dirty, too.
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