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Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Apr 12, 2015 - 06:30pm PT
Dern Ron you did have a good day at the range!

Wish-list item- 10/22 take down model!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 12, 2015 - 07:32pm PT
My Volquortsen is finally on the way, but currently my best 10-22 clone is an AMT that I built.
I rebedded it in a better stock, added a cool comp to the bbl, and dropped in a Timney trigger that is like a glass hair breaking.

I warn people but every time their first shot is a ND. lol

I went shooting with Reilly 9 days ago and got so carried away with my Diamondback AR pistol that a wild shot caught the bottom of my disc stand and now I need some major heat and mallet work before I can remove the base again.
That thing sends out a shock wave and spits a tongue of flame in broad daylight.

Oh, and Joe, I've had extraordinary good fortune. If it comes to the point where my government is hitting civilians with drones or rolling armor on me, then I'll be happy to die trying to take out my second or third tank since I possess 3 techniques for neutralizing armor.

Apr 12, 2015 - 08:08pm PT
Toker, what are your 3 techniques for neutralizing armor ?

Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
Apr 12, 2015 - 08:22pm PT
Hey Ron: So what's your explanation for the mysterious disappearance of your posting with regard to your attempt to organize a massacre of 300 million Muslims?

For those who are puzzled by the above comment, I suggest that you read the entire thread started on October 22, 2014 and titled "Ottawa Under Attack."

Read them all carefully (it's a fairly short thread) & ask yourselves if there isn't a mysterious gap in the posts from Ron.

It should be a valuable lesson on how this guy deals with accountability for his comments.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 12, 2015 - 08:27pm PT
They are each quite different than the others.

I learned one that they teach cops after that guy in San Diego went berserk with a tank.

And I can neither confirm nor deny the vagueness of any further comments.

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 12, 2015 - 08:29pm PT
"One Predator strike with a single Apache mop up and any survivors would be delivered up instantly."

That times a thousand hasn't worked to pacify a relatively small number of illiterate cavemen wielding small arms in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan. What makes you think it would work anywhere else?

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 12, 2015 - 09:26pm PT
Toker and I had a blast, literally, but I'm sworn to secrecy. But I think
I'm OK to assert that I really appreciated hosing that camelhumper target with
his Carlos Hathcock Model 70 with the awesome Springfield scope. Even a
half-blind gooner like me was able to get three out of four center mass at
400 yards and my fourth got 'em in the groin so at least he won't be makin'
no more fornicators, let alone limp-wristed canadian bacon gummers.

And on the subject of what makes America great I would like to give a shout
out to the men and women of the 388th Fighter Wing of Hill AFB where I went
to help my newly disabled bro-in-law, lately a squadron commander, get his
house up to snuff for selling so he can move to a wheelchair friendly abode.
While they may seem to the casual observer to be beyond the pale of us
getting a big enough boat I have no fears about ever needing to do so,
despite any putative provocation engendered by the Toker Villain or his
minions. Did I mention how hard it was to hold my emotions in check when
we were saying adieu and two braces of F-16's took off and did a fly-by?
I can't fathom how hard it was for the Major.

There is no such thing as an ex-fighter pilot.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled pissant posturing.

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 12, 2015 - 09:34pm PT
Reilly...did you learn how to disarm a tank...? rj

Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
Apr 12, 2015 - 09:47pm PT
Ron: As I stated earlier, I invite anyone with an atom of respect for the truth to check it out for themselves.

I don't have an atom of respect for your integrity, Ron. You're supposed to be a climber, so I suppose that you've got a rope.

Now go piss up it.

And Werner - did you check out that thread? I didn't think so.


Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Apr 12, 2015 - 10:56pm PT
my fourth got 'em in the groin so at least he won't be makin'
no more fornicators, let alone limp-wristed canadian bacon gummers.

Reilly, you made me spray coffee out of my nose. It hurts!


There's no need for pulling out such heavy weaponry as that sort of humor.

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Apr 13, 2015 - 12:05am PT
That times a thousand hasn't worked to pacify a relatively small number of illiterate cavemen wielding small arms in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan. What makes you think it would work anywhere else?

I'd stack one Afghani woman against a hundred suburbanites armed to the teeth.

Apr 13, 2015 - 08:44am PT
I just order this on eBay for my concealed weapon carry and close quarter work.

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Apr 13, 2015 - 09:04am PT
Will the NRA Ever Stop Lying?
by Dean Obeidallah

In 2008, the NRA Wayne LaPierre honcho said Obama was going to confiscate guns. Now, Hillary wants to. The lies will never end.

“They are coming to take your guns away!” That was the message from this past weekend’s annual NRA Convention. In fact, it’s the same message we have heard for years from the NRA. And just as it has been in the past, as it was this weekend, that message is a lie.

No one in the Obama administration or any Democratic administration has ever tried to take law-abiding citizens guns away. Even when President Bill Clinton signed into law the assault weapons ban in 1994, which expired in 2004, it “grandfathered in weapons and ammo clips produced or purchased before the enactment of the ban.”

There are now nearly 300 million guns in the United States. It would be impossible to take even a fraction of those guns away from people. And more importantly, the government can’t, because the United States Supreme Court in 2008 interpreted the Second Amendment as bestowing a personal constitutional right to own a firearm.

The NRA knows all this. But still, look at the scare tactics it employed this weekend at its convention in Nashville.

For starters, the motto for this year’s convention was: “If they can ban one, they can ban them all.” So fear was the very slogan. Then, the NRA’s Executive Vice President and CEO Wayne LaPierre upped the fear factor by telling the attendees: “There's no telling how far President Obama will go to dismantle our freedoms and reshape America into an America that you and I will not even recognize.” Now even assuming Obama wanted to somehow “dismantle our freedoms,” as LaPierre claims, how could Obama do that in the final 18 months of his presidency when the Republicans control the Senate, the House, and the Supreme Court?

He can’t, and the NRA knows that. But facts don’t matter when you are trying to scare people (and get their money). In fact, they often get in the way.

Now scaring people (aka lying) about Obama is nothing new for the NRA. It started even before he took office. While Obama was campaigning for president in 2008 he stated that the Second Amendment bestowed a personal right to own guns and that he “will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns.”

Pretty clear, right? But the NRA publicly claimed that Obama wanted to “ban use of firearms for home self defense” and “ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.” That was simply and utterly a fabrication by the NRA.

Unsurprisingly after Obama was elected, we saw a massive spike in gun sales. As one gun store owner put it shortly after Obama won, “I have been in business for 12 years, and I was here for Y2K, September 11, Katrina... we did notice a spike in business, but nothing on the order of what we are seeing right now.”

And the NRA’s lies about Obama continued. For example, in 2011 the NRA claimed that Obama’s “true intention is to destroy the Second Amendment in our country.” And during Obama’s reelection campaign in 2012, the NRA sent out a fundraising letter that claimed Obama’s re-election would result in the “confiscation of our firearms.”

Does the NRA lie in an effort to help gun manufacturers sell firearms? After all, estimates are that gun manufactures have ponied up between$20 million and $50 million in contributions to the NRA since 2005. Or is it because the NRA needs an enemy to rally its supporters behind? Or a little of both?

Regardless of the reason, the NRA is now pivoting from Obama to Hillary Clinton. LaPierre stated at this weekend’s convention that Clinton “has been coming after us for decades...Hillary Clinton hasn’t met a gun control bill that she couldn’t support.”

LaPierre then warned, in Game of Thrones-esque terms, that “Hillary Rodham Clinton will bring a permanent darkness of deceit and despair forced upon the American people to endure.” After hearing that, I almost want to buy a gun. And no doubt we can expect even more outlandish rhetoric and unabashed lies from LaPierre directed at Clinton as the 2016 race heats up.

Not to be left out, Ted Cruz joined the fear mongering with his statement to the NRA attendees that “if Hillary Clinton is going to join with Barack Obama and the gun grabbers and come after our guns, then what I say is come and take it.”

Just the concept of “gun grabbing” makes me laugh. After all, Congress couldn’t even muster the votes needed in 2013 to pass universal background checks for gun purchasers and that had the support of 90 percent of Americans. And that bill failed only a few months after the horrific shooting spree at Sandy Hook Elementary School that left 26 dead, including 20 children.

The reality is that while LaPierre and his cronies have been weaving fabulous tales of impeding gun grabbing, Republican-controlled state legislatures have been weakening gun safety laws. For example, just last year, Republicans in Georgia passed the “guns everywhere bill” that makes it legal to carry guns in bars, school zones, and parts of airports. And 11 states in recent years even passed laws intended to nullify federal gun safety laws under the guise of “firearm freedom.” (Think “religious liberty” but for guns.)

No mention of that truth by LaPierre. Or worse, no mention of the truth that every day 30 Americans are murdered by gun violence and 53 Americans uses guns to commit suicide.

You would think the NRA would make it a priority to reduce the number of Americans killed by firearms. Instead, it appears that the NRA’s priority is lying.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Apr 13, 2015 - 09:13am PT

They won't let us have these in Canada:


Apr 13, 2015 - 09:15am PT

The best yet .....

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Apr 13, 2015 - 09:25am PT
Dying laughing!

Stop, please stop.

Some of you guys clearly don't realize that humor can be a deadly weapon, and you are irresponsibly employing it as such.

Werner, the anti-tank rifle.... ROFL. And the iGun... yikes! Killer!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 13, 2015 - 09:59am PT
Actually, Reilly is a good damn shot.

Having seen The Beast (highly recommended film based on a stage play about Pashtunwalli) I would have to agree with Joe about Afghani women, but we ain't no suburbanites. We're just tired of hiding the bodies.

I like how the guy in Werner's photo is about to get his pants blown off by the muzzle blast of the compensator on that barrel behind him.

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Apr 13, 2015 - 10:10am PT
I've never figured out why some people post a link to an article and then cut and paste the exact same article into the text below...

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Apr 13, 2015 - 10:22am PT
^Most likely so that someone can check to see if the pasted text has been altered in anyway. Kind of a backup, failsafe maneuver. Who do you trust?

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is about to reconsider whether the mere assertion of a need for self-defense is sufficient for a permit to carry concealed firearms.

Who would disagree that these fellows should be allowed to carry concealed weapons? Would you like to meet one? They probably feel that they have a need for self-defense (though some might qualify on the premise that they carry large sums of cash and/or are stalked).

as Popeye used to say "happy hunting".

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Apr 13, 2015 - 10:28am PT
fear (poor name choice)

Because NO ONE would read the article if it was just a link
the link is for reference only, and to indicate that I did not write the material, to give the author the recognition for legal purposes and so on

it is an opinion piece that is very true, would you not agree?

I don't follow links for articles, do you?

I could never figure out why folks don't get that,
well most do get it.
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