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Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:08pm PT
Think it through, jonnyrig. Back in my bakery days I couldn't buy a beer after 2 am, but cocaine, loads, weed was all readily available. In high school it was a lot easier to get LSD than alcohol.

Make it legal and you eliminate crime. Read the book, or maybe ignorance makes you feel better about your views?
moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:09pm PT
+1 Jebus

Andrzej
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:10pm PT
Can't make him drink, I guess ;).

I smoke nothing, bra! Nor do I drink, snort, slam, or huff it. Treatment, education, and stop moaning about your freedom to murder, thanks.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:18pm PT
What are you so angry about?

Maybe it's time for another vacation from the forum for you?

Edit: in response to j rig's now deted "fuk you!"
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:25pm PT
Gun trivia:



Just for you whining libs that hate all guns..


Did you know that by the end of this year there will be around 30 million new gun owners in the USA since Sandy Hook?


And a little 22 caliber 30 to 40 grain bullet has enough foot pounds of energy to kill a human at 450 yards or better..And the average store runs out of ammo after shipments within hours of opening the door-- all the way across America?


Did you know the stock piles of Ammo by private citizens equals all the ammo used in Viet Nam?



Did you know that concealed weapon classes are at an all time high in amount of those putting them on as well as attendees?


Did you know the most common phrase at gun shops across America is "Obama is the gun salesman of the century"?




You CAn shoot a 9mm in a .40 caliber gun!



You CAN also shoot a 223 round in a 9mm, but it wont have enough energy to make it very far.

The M1 Carbine was the most manufactured weapon in WW11,, NOT the M1 Garande as one would suspect.!


The M 1 carbine with 90 grain hollow points have 2460 fps at the muzzle. And 110 grain FMJs average 1940 to 1990 FPS. Nice ballistics for a smaller .30 cal round eh...
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:39pm PT
Wow!
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:41pm PT
Well then Ron, I suppose your murder rate should drop with all those new guns protecting you. Let's see how it goes.

Right now the US has 3 times the murder rate that Canada has, and 5 times the gun related murder rate. Here in the Great White North we do most of our killin' old school.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:45pm PT
Yeah, when I have time I'll read through the link. It's a lot of info. I don't have time right now.

Cool, you'll find it very interesting.



I actually prefer to learn what I can when I can, whether I agree with the point of view or not. Maybe you could refrain from calling me ignorant. But if it makes you feel better...

My apologies. I never thought of you as the stick your head in the sand type.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:45pm PT
And strictly for example, cough cough,, the 90 grain CoreBond hollow point round would turn a human head - to mist.. MIST.. Not chunks,, but MIST.. Like,, the blow away in a gentle breeze mist.. The foggy Portland morning mist.. Mist is what im getting at here.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
Here in the Great White North we do most of our killin' old school.

Yeah! That makes it MUCH better!

Actually, contrary to what most Americans presently believe, the US was never designed to be a SAFE nation, or "less violent," or "more civilized" than other nations. It was designed to be the most free nation. When "give me liberty or give me death" rings in your ears and the ears of your family and friends, then you will have a totally different perspective on the non-"epidemic of gun violence" in this country.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:47pm PT
Hear a lot ringing in your ears, huh? Well, at least that explains it!

"Give me liberty" he intones as we jail ever increasing percentages of our fellow Americans. Rich!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:47pm PT
Mist is what im getting at here.

ROFL

Okay, I guess that if you intend to shoot someone, you intend to kill that person. So why not pink mist? Certainly an effective way to ensure that the job is, uhhh... shall we say... DONE.
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:52pm PT
Statistically speaking, there will be a good chance the person I shoot will be a mistake. I'd rather my mistakes didn't die.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:56pm PT
The debate is over

Yup, and so far, on this subject, freedom has been winning. At least in most states.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:58pm PT
Statistically speaking, there will be a good chance the person I shoot will be a mistake.

Then I'd highly recommend more training, so that you don't become a statistic.
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Jul 8, 2014 - 09:11pm PT
I'm not really talking about me as I don't have a gun.


7SacredPools

Trad climber
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Jul 8, 2014 - 09:44pm PT
You be right Mr. K, how foolish of me.

On the whole "freedom" issue Madbolter 1, do you see the irony of the US having 25% of the world's inmates, yet only 5% of the population?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jul 8, 2014 - 09:46pm PT
do you see the irony of the US having 25% of the world's inmates, yet only 5% of the population?

No! Throw the dirty buggers in jail!!!!!

FAK!

Statistically speaking, there will be a good chance the person I shoot will be a mistake.

So shoot another one, even the score! FAK!

DMT
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jul 8, 2014 - 10:02pm PT
Actually, contrary to what most Americans presently believe, the US was never designed to be a SAFE nation, or "less violent," or "more civilized" than other nations. It was designed to be the most free nation

Now that's an interesting perspective.

If the US was designed to be the "most free" nation, what happened? As far as I can tell, having lived in both countries, citizens of the US are not more free than citizens of Canada.

And although I haven't lived in any of them, I do have to spend a fair amount of time in other countries, and work fairly closely with people from all over the world. And again, as far as I can tell, citizens of the US are not more free than citizens of Germany, or the UK, or any number of other countries.

The big difference, as far as I've been able to see, is that citizens of the US are more likely to be murdered or imprisoned than citizens of other countries. Perhaps that is what you mean by "more free", but most people wouldn't see it that way.

And, before you get upset, I'm not anti-US. I live there and I like it. But my American neighbors, no matter that they are armed to the teeth, are not "more free" than my neighbors in Canada were.

Edit to add: And before you make any unfounded assumptions, I'm not anti-gun, either. I grew up with guns, as did most of the Canadian folks around me. But for whatever reason we didn't shoot each other at the same rate Americans did.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 8, 2014 - 10:08pm PT
On the whole "freedom" issue Madbolter 1, do you see the irony of the US having 25% of the world's inmates, yet only 5% of the population?

Of course I do. We throw our resources in entirely the wrong direction. In case I haven't been clear thus far, this whole "war on..." mentality is ridiculous and an utter waste of taxpayers' money.

I'm libertarian and believe that virtually everything should be legal. The flip side is that there should be MUCH harsher penalties for violating the inalienable rights of others than there presently are.
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