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Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 10, 2014 - 10:23am PT
The Armed Citizen:
TROUTDALE -- Police responded shortly after 8 a.m. to a report of shots fired at Reynolds High School. Police confirmed about 9:20 a.m. that a shooter in the incident was dead.

At 10 a.m., police confirmed that one student had also been killed. The students names and genders have not been released.

SWAT teams were working their way through the school, releasing students from classrooms who are leaving with their hands over their heads.
http://www.kgw.com/home/Breaking-Reports-of-gunfire-at-Reynolds-High-School-262541971.html

Another day, another school shooting. Ho-hum.
Binks

climber
Uranus
Jun 10, 2014 - 10:28am PT
i'm done with debate. it's time for WAR. down with the NRA. Yes, I DO WANT TO TAKE YOUR GUNS AWAY. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jun 10, 2014 - 10:54am PT
So the firearms in this incident loaded themselves and fought their way into the "gun free zone"? Tricksie things they are...

Comon... only 70 more posts...

Kick this dead horse!
Binks

climber
Uranus
Jun 10, 2014 - 11:00am PT
You will FALL!!! The public is getting sick of the pathetic excuses. You will find you won't last long little cowards. You and your guns are NOTHING. THIS IS MY COMMUNITY YOU ASSHOLES. As far as I am concerned, you are the enemy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/10/us-usa-shooting-oregon-idUSKBN0EL1P320140610
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 10, 2014 - 11:23am PT
I'm your enemy because I have guns? Huh. Bring on the war... cause...
I've got the guns.
yawn.

Hey... you wanta trade my guns for your freedom of speech? Seems fair.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jun 10, 2014 - 11:25am PT

"Can the crawling creator crawling in the same dark as his creature create while crawling?" One of the questions he put to himself as between two crawls he lay.

And if the obvious answer were not far to seek, the most helpful was another matter. And many crawls were necessary before he could finally make up his imagination on this score. Adding to himself without conviction in the same breath as always that no answer of his was sacred ....

So while in the same breath deploring a fancy so reason-ridden and observing how revocable its flights he could not but answer finally:

"No he could not. Could not conceivably create while crawling in the same create dark as his creature."
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:18pm PT
2 more dead in Oregon school shooting - thanks NRA!

Credit: crankster
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:21pm PT
only 2 dead, including himself, this time?
What a loser
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:22pm PT
You guys sure are a bunch of alarmists. Fox News says it ain't so bad:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/02/17/bloomberg-latest-stats-on-school-gun-violence-ignore-reality/
Are schools and colleges dangerous places, with lots of gun violence?

Some groups paint a picture of these places being particularly unsafe. Supposedly both murders and firearm suicides are very common at educational institutions. Last Wednesday, former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s two groups, Moms Demand Gun Sense in America and Mayors Against Illegal Guns, jointly released a report that received massive uncritical news coverage.

They claimed that 44 shootings occurred in schools and colleges nationwide since the Newtown, Conn. massacre on Dec. 14, 2012 and Feb. 10 of this year. Out of the 44 shootings, a total of 28 died. To dramatize their numbers, Bloomberg’s groups emphasized that one of these attacks occurred every 10 days.

But their statistics are not what they seem. Included in the numbers are suicides. Also included are late night shootings taking place in school parking lots, on their grounds or even off school property, often involving gangs. As “shootings,” they also include any incident where shots were fired, even when nobody was injured.
...
Also, some perspective is needed. Contrary to what many people believe, high school shootings have actually been falling over the last two decades. To illustrate this let’s compare the five school years 1992-93 to 1996-97 with the five school years from 2008-09 to 2012-13. During the first period, the number of non-gang, non-suicide shooting deaths averaged 25 a year. During the recent five-year period, it averaged less than half that, 10 per year – and that figure does include the horrific Newtown massacre.

What a relief! I feel much better about all this!
paul roehl

Boulder climber
california
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:30pm PT
Is there any type or kind of weapon or arm that a citizen should be prohibited from owning?

If you feel there is such a weapon tell me how the outlawing of said weapon in not a violation of the second amendment.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:34pm PT
Credit: HighTraverse
excluding summer vacations, more than 1 school shooting per week since Newtown
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:34pm PT
"What a relief! I feel much better about all this!"

No doubt. I'm sure the parents of the Reynolds HS kid are breathing huge sighs of relief.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:36pm PT
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State
When the gun owner signs up for a well regulated militia
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:38pm PT
Is there any type or kind of weapon or arm that a citizen should be prohibited from owning?



These are prohibited. If the Founding Fathers did not want us to have fission weapons, they would have prohibited them in the Constitution. But they didn't!
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:59pm PT
It's funny how quiet the gun-nutz get every time there's another school shooting.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jun 10, 2014 - 04:59pm PT
Pretty telling that in Oregon when they searched the students they found another kid with a gun unrelated.

Its the culture mot the gun, but parents need to gun proof their kids every bit as much as they need to kid proof their guns.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 10, 2014 - 06:20pm PT
a few weeks ago,, "Jack in the box" fast food diners announced they would no longer allow carry guns in their chain stores. Since then they have been robbed four times. Since the schools are noted to be gun free zones, and the whackos continue to go to those schools to basically commit suicide after taking others out, when will you all figure out they need armed guards at schools? Your children arent getting the same protection your money does at the bank.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 06:51pm PT
I'm pretty sure Thomas Jefferson on his death bed said "I only wish I would live long enough to hold a .3006 to protect are freedoms" and then expired.


Ron posted
Since then they have been robbed four times.

Um...how many times were they robbed before then? And how many times were robberies stopped by people with guns? You kind of suck at statistics, dude. My hospital has banned guns and it's never been robbed and nobody has ever been shot. Boosh. Logical fallacy obliterated.

Also, what about all the Jack in the Boxes that HAVEN'T been robbed? By your "what about all the guns that HAVEN'T killed people" argument this is airtight logic. Right along with "what about all the American soldiers the Taliban HAVEN'T killed" and "what about all the cigarettes that children HAVEN'T smoked." Man I'm on a tear.
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 06:55pm PT
Jack in the box" fast food diners announced they would no longer allow carry guns in their chain stores. Since then they have been robbed four times.

Says World Net Daily.
Credit: crankster
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 06:58pm PT
No you see I don't believe the liberal media I just immediately believe whatever PatDollard.com says which means I'm a good critical thinker.
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