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hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 8, 2013 - 01:06pm PT
its unforvnate to lack rational discourse, but i see that as partially a result of putting people in charge of the process who are naive and ignorant.

it doesnt held to have packages like feinsteins around either.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Apr 8, 2013 - 01:11pm PT
Credit: https://www.facebook.com/TheEverlastingGopStoppers
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 8, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
dont yot have the topless one of her philo? it,s better...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 8, 2013 - 01:22pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

my personal Fave..Sarah is HOT!
jghedge

climber
Apr 8, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
"t is sad that so many gun nuts won't even entertain the idea of at least trying to throw up some road blocks."


They can't, because they know their party will lose voters to the Tea Party if they compromise on gun control, and they have none to lose. They'd be like southern dems voting to abolish Jim Crow - they might as well switch parties (which is what happened in the south).


It's purely political. The repub party will be decimated if they compromise on gun control

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 8, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
Weschrist writes:

"You are required by law to use your vehicle safely, have regular safety inspections, and pass a periodic test to prove you can operate it safely."



Only if you choose to use your vehicle in public. A vehicle kept and driven solely on private property is exempt from those regulations. I know. I own one.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 8, 2013 - 02:26pm PT
i dont want to be limited to hunting and target practice on private property. and self-defense should be legal just about everywhere. i DO think showing proficiency before getting a ccw should be mandatory, in every state. i also think there should be a carry permit thats honored in all 50, but that may go too far.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 8, 2013 - 02:30pm PT
it is quite fair to assume that Mechrist was posting about guns used in PUBLIC


why would one assume he was talking about in the privacy of one's own property?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 8, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
i DO think showing proficiency before getting a ccw should be mandatory, in every state.

this is not now the case?

you mean there are some states that hand out CCWs without ANY proficiency testing?

can you name a couple, just curious as I had no idea it was that easy to get one?
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 8, 2013 - 02:39pm PT
im not that up to date n it, but i think arizona and florida are that way. nv requires proficiency. as does ca. except nv is shall-issue and allows non-res to obtain permits. ca is discretionary and does not allow non-res permits. i,ve been told alaska requires no permit at all to carry concealed. its expected.
jghedge

climber
Apr 8, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/08/1200114/-Rep-Glenn-Thompson-doesn-t-care-how-many-people-die-as-long-as-he-gets-to-feel-like-a-big-man?showAll=yes

"4. How many mass murders do we need to allow, each year, in order for you to continue your little masturbatory fantasy about killing imaginary people who come into your home in the middle of the night? How many accidental shootings? How much gang violence? How many similarly high-powered guns going to the very people you're supposedly protecting yourself from? How many children finding their parents loaded arsenals under the bed, each year, the arsenals that couldn't be locked up or otherwise made inaccessible because then your little masturbatory fantasy about easily spraying your own home with gunfire in the middle of any random night would seem slightly less immediate? Name your price, Mr. Thompson. If the status quo is a fine and decent price to pay, what would constitute too much, and sway you to action?"

"5. Why should the rest of us put up with your little masturbatory fantasies at all, given the obvious toll they have been extracting?"
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 8, 2013 - 03:06pm PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#297966

masterbatory? no sir, guns have sharp edges.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 8, 2013 - 03:13pm PT
say, how is Caribou Barbie doing nowadays?

just think, she had an outside chance of being one John McCain heartbeat away from Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces.

party of National Security my ass
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 8, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
Weschrist wrote:

Tell us Jebz, what is your role in all of this?

I'm Batman.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 8, 2013 - 03:32pm PT
and im the Lizard KING!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 8, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
When i was in the Seventh Special Forces we played around with Uzi submachine guns, M79 grenade launchers and C4 plastic explosives.......they should be in every household.

I have a nicely framed portrait of Charlton Heston above my bed.

Now can i come out and play?

But i think Sarah Palin is kind of a dog....does that disqualify me?
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Apr 8, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
She is such a sweetheart ;)

photo not found
Missing photo ID#297995
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
thought you were only supposed to finger the trigger when you were ready to shoot
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Apr 8, 2013 - 05:40pm PT
So many points that need to be responded to. Wish I could keep up with these are work, but apparently they now want me to work while at work...

We have never had a coordinated federal effort to ensure the competence and responsibility of gun purchasers. We don't KNOW if it will reduce crime, but clearly when anyone who hasn't been convicted of a felony (yet) can walk into a gun store and buy 2 guns a week without raising any flags, something should be changed.

When someone who HAS been convicted of a felony can walk into a gun show and walk out with as many guns as he can carry, or walk into a gun store and walk out with as much ammo as he can afford something MUST be changed.

Im not req,d to have a safe. i,m not req,d to unload them. Im not req,d to send my kid to hunter safety or teach her safe handling or to GTFO if someone else messes w a gun. But that will all get done, or is currently being done. it seems common sense to me.

That's the problem with common sense, it's not very common. Few states have any meaningful legal requirements for the appropriate storage of guns.

Only if you choose to use your vehicle in public. A vehicle kept and driven solely on private property is exempt from those regulations.

But once you drive that car outside your own property the absence of tags and registration would allow any LEO to realize that you are committing an offense. Here in PA, excluding Philly city limits, open carry of a loaded firearm by anyone over 18 is permitted, police are permitted to ask why you're standing with a loaded gun outside the fence of an elementary school, but should you fail to respond, there is nothing they can legally do until you start shooting.


you mean there are some states that hand out CCWs without ANY proficiency testing?
can you name a couple, just curious as I had no idea it was that easy to get one?

PA requires nothing for an LCF except a fee. Carrying a concealed weapon without a license is only a misdemeanor if the person is not otherwise prohibited from getting that license. Someone ineligible to get a license would only face a third degree felony. Stiff penalties, bound to deter criminals...

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=4451&&PageID=462424&mode=2

TE







mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
Here in PA, excluding Philly city limits, open carry of a loaded firearm by anyone over 18 is permitted, police are permitted to ask why you're standing with a loaded gun outside the fence of an elementary school, but should you fail to respond, there is nothing they can legally do until you start shooting.

That is fuk'd up. How could ANYONE NOT want to work like hell to get that changed?
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