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crankster

Trad climber
Feb 23, 2015 - 03:38pm PT
http://www.grenadastar.com/contentitem/386420/1218/man-accidentally-shot-by-own-gun
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 23, 2015 - 04:59pm PT
What else did the guy have in the "carrying bag"? A pocket weasel?
Darwinism?


The CZ 75T is an otb race gun with an incredibly good trigger job and a 20 + 1 cap, but still fits in the box.
I'm thinking of shooting minor in 3G as a senior.
( just for shlts and giggles)
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Feb 23, 2015 - 05:41pm PT
3) the "militia part" is in the antecedent position of a conditional, even if the case can be made that the amendment is in conditional form; thus the "militia part" being false in any scenario makes the whole amendment true, and in any such scenario leaves the truth value of the consequent part of the conditional unknown; and in any scenario that makes the antecedent true, the consequent is certainly true

Thanks for providing some clarity.

lol
jonnyrig

climber
Feb 25, 2015 - 10:22am PT
Some people are idiots. Spoke to an employer who, out of 16 applicants, had ONE pass the drug test. Applicants knew there was a drug test and that they had to pass it. Maybe that should be a prerequisite for firearms purchase as well?
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Feb 27, 2015 - 01:55pm PT
Some people are idiots. Spoke to an employer who, out of 16 applicants, had ONE pass the drug test. Applicants knew there was a drug test and that they had to pass it. Maybe that should be a prerequisite for firearms purchase as well?

There's already a federal prohibition on buying or owning a firearm if you're an unlawful user or addicted to a controlled substance. That one could use a little more enforcement. Might filter out a few of the nuts here.

TE
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 27, 2015 - 02:06pm PT
Did y'all know that John Wilkes Booth's Derringer was a 44 cal?
Pretty amazing that Lincoln lived for the hours that he did.

Ron, you guys selling many PX4 Storm Compacts? It looks pretty nice and,
of course, it is one of the few 'Cali approved handguns'. I guess they
call it the PX4 Storm Type F Compact so it will go well with my new Jag Type F.

The retractable lanyard loop is a tad gimmicky but then I guess you could
clip it to yer harness to clear the crag of taggers.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 27, 2015 - 02:47pm PT
Did y'all know that John Wilkes Booth's Derringer was a 44 cal?

That thing gave me the creeps.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 27, 2015 - 03:07pm PT
ron
tell us more about the notch on your gun
You must be very proud.

Like a badge of Honor...
Was he brown?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 27, 2015 - 03:35pm PT
I'm OK with some good old-fashioned tar & feathering. As long as it's followed up with a running out of town on a rail.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 27, 2015 - 04:08pm PT
ron
Well you are right about this
I do not need to know

Just curious
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 27, 2015 - 04:31pm PT
Thanks ron
That's what I always respect about you, you answer direct questions
well done
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Mar 5, 2015 - 09:45am PT
Time to put up or shut up, a new Universal Background Check bill is being introduced in congress:

H.R.1217 - To protect Second Amendment rights, ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and provide a responsible and consistent background check process

If you actually care about reducing deaths and violence from guns, call your representative and tell them you support Universal Background Checks, and that they should too.

If not, please explain how being prohibited from selling guns to criminals or lunatics infringes on a right to self-defense, or even on any perceived right to amass an arsenal of firearms in preparation for the overthrow of a democratically elected government.

TE
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Mar 5, 2015 - 09:53am PT
The problem isn't with the face-value of a "background check" to check for the behavior you've mentioned. The problem arises in the actual details and implementation of such a thing by our vile government... They don't care about you or me or anyone else. So such a well titled proposal is simply the wrapper on another sh1t sandwich being forced upon us.

Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe the government really is here to help this time. Cough... gag....

But in a perfect world I'd be all for the spirit of it.

jonnyrig

climber
Mar 5, 2015 - 10:19am PT
retracted

Ron, it's not universal. You know private party sales are not required to pass NICS in NV.
Norton

Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
Mar 5, 2015 - 10:47am PT
I see Ron's point in not expanding background checks beyond sales from dealers

but then why should there be even background checks for new sales through dealers ?

considering that

we all know that anyone can buy a gun easily and quickly right through their newspaper
with no background check, therefore background checks don't stop gun crime

also, criminal ignore laws, so having existing or new laws doesn't stop crime either

jonnyrig

climber
Mar 5, 2015 - 11:15am PT
rant off
jonnyrig

climber
Mar 5, 2015 - 11:22am PT
more ranting about the idiocy of fear
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 5, 2015 - 12:26pm PT
California has every gun control law you can imagine, and already this month ( it's only the fifth ) there's been one quadruple murder and two regular single-corpse murders just in San Bernardino.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Mar 5, 2015 - 12:37pm PT
already this month ( it's only the fifth ) there's been one quadruple murder and two regular single-corpse murders just in San Bernardino.

Yeah, but those were almost certainly "gang related," and we all (including law enforcement) already know that nothing can be done about that sort of violence (it only escalates).

So, really, that sort of thing should be dropped right out of the statistics. It's more like background noise, and gun regulation is targeted at those people that are not part of the background noise.

You can't stop the deafening construction noise of a building going up, so you ticket the guy at a nearby stoplight who is playing the music a bit too loud in his car.

Yeah, works for me. Bring on yet more useless regulation and "enforcement."
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 5, 2015 - 01:00pm PT
"Yeah, but those were almost certainly "gang related,"..."


Not according to those who "know":

http://www.pe.com/articles/san-761571-shooting-bernardino.html

Read some of the comments left by readers:

"Deuces is a family club not a gang."

"Deuces are not a gang. We are family"



A "family" who closes bars on a school night, and gets into a shootout with someone else's "family" before going home.

Welcome to San Bernardino.
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