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healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 17, 2015 - 10:47pm PT
ATF wants to geld the citizenry

If the guberment wants to 'geld the citizenry' they need only shutter McDonalds.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 18, 2015 - 09:42am PT
The Armed Citizen:
A Las Vegas woman who was shot to death in front of her home had gone looking for the man who, minutes earlier, had confronted her in a road-rage incident, police said Tuesday.

Tammy Meyers, 44, was giving her 15-year-old daughter a driving lesson Thursday night when she was involved in a confrontation with another driver. Police initially said Meyers and her daughter had gone home after the incident and were calling for help when a car pulled up and someone inside opened fire.

Police now say Meyers, after returning home, went searching for the other driver. She was joined by her 22-year-old son, who had a gun, police said in a news conference Tuesday. The pair drove around looking for a gray or silver sedan. Meyers and her son found the vehicle, police said, and followed it for a while before Meyers decided to go home.

Once home, a silver or gray sedan drove into their cul-de-sac, police said, and someone began shooting at them. Meyers' son returned fire, and the car sped off. Meyers was hit. She died two days later after being taken off life support, her family said.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-las-vegas-road-rage-shooting-search-20150217-story.html
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Feb 18, 2015 - 10:29am PT
ATF wants to geld the citizenry

If the guberment wants to 'geld the citizenry' they need only shutter McDonalds.

Hell no! Shuttering McPoison would anger the FSA and cause mass riots, second only to perhaps shutting off the EBT cards!

madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 18, 2015 - 03:47pm PT
The Armed Citizen

Yawwwwwnnnn....

Ho hum, smack, smack, smack....

Yawwwnnn
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Feb 19, 2015 - 04:15pm PT
Yawwwwwnnnn....

Ho hum, smack, smack, smack....

Yawwwnnn

One person is dead, another is in jail, and both would be sitting at home happily tonight if either of them hadn't been armed. These aren't anecdotes, they happen every day, at least ten times more often than anyone lawfully using a gun to defend themselves. Don't mind the evidence, stick to your principles, they're all you've got. Freedom ain't free, give me liberty at the cost of someone else's death, or 10,000 deaths.

TE
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 19, 2015 - 04:38pm PT
TradEddie writes:

"...they happen every day, at least ten times more often than anyone lawfully using a gun to defend themselves."


Cite your source.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Feb 19, 2015 - 04:45pm PT
Seems like both partys involved in this are aholes. reaching over and honking the horn when you are not driveing is a bitch move. Instead of takeing a video or photo of the silver car and dialing 911 they go home and get gunned up and go looking for a fight. now it looks like they knew the kid who just got arrested and most likly they had gone to his house all gunned up that night. there is a lot more to this story then they admitted to.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 19, 2015 - 06:17pm PT
One person is dead, another is in jail, and both would be sitting at home happily tonight if either of them hadn't been armed. These aren't anecdotes, they happen every day, at least ten times more often than anyone lawfully using a gun to defend themselves. Don't mind the evidence, stick to your principles, they're all you've got. Freedom ain't free, give me liberty at the cost of someone else's death, or 10,000 deaths.

I think that's called a rant. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

Yeah, people are dead. Big deal. People die all sorts of ways. Worse, people live maimed... you know... drunk drivers... worst in the civilized world. Not one single thread or hand-wringing about that.

People die. That's what they do.

You know... "yer gonna die."

Get over yourself.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 19, 2015 - 06:29pm PT
Oh, and while you're thinking about how to get over your rant, since you claim that you are not a gun-grabber, I am on the edge of my seat waiting to hear what law you propose to keep this sort of incident from happening.

Apparently both parties had their guns legally. And you can't legislate away stupidity. So, what do you propose???
WBraun

climber
Feb 19, 2015 - 06:41pm PT
The whole anti gun bullsh!t & hysteria is an artificial created media distraction to keep everyone busy
so no one can see all the corruption by the criminals in DC, Pentagon & wall street destroying the country .....
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 19, 2015 - 06:49pm PT
So, what do you propose???

Stop manufacturing guns. Pretty simple, really.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 19, 2015 - 07:23pm PT
Stop manufacturing guns. Pretty simple, really.

That's what I'd expect from you, but I wasn't asking you. I was asking TE, because his is a classic gun-grabber rant, yet he frequently CLAIMS to have NO interest in "going after anybody's guns" (if, of course, they are legal to have them).

For a non-gun-grabber (unlike you), I'm panting to hear how ANY proposed law would have prevented this incident.
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Feb 19, 2015 - 07:28pm PT
And you can't legislate away stupidity

Which is exactly what a drunk driver is, stupid.

Even though there is a large chasm between going out to kill people with intent, compared to an accident, it's still stupid. Nobody is denying that Mad.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 19, 2015 - 07:56pm PT
compared to an accident, it's still stupid

Right, so prosecute stupidity/negligence harshly (like DUIs should be). Beyond that, quit hand-wringing.

A third of a billion FREE people are going to have some stupid and negligent among them. Stupid is gonna happen, and people are gonna die.

"Free" does not imply "safe," nor would truly free people want it to!
crankster

Trad climber
Feb 19, 2015 - 08:35pm PT

Feb 19, 2015 - 06:41pm PT
The whole anti gun bullsh!t & hysteria is an artificial created media distraction to keep everyone busy
so no one can see all the corruption by the criminals in DC, Pentagon & wall street destroying the country .....

You could read this for a week and not find one piece of truth in it. Utter nonsense.
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Feb 19, 2015 - 09:06pm PT
They are getting prosecuted harshly, bit it could be worse for drunk drivers if we could change the law to reflect that drinking and driving is not an accident. People that kill or maim with a gun accidently receive lighter sentences than those with intent to do harm or kill.
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Feb 19, 2015 - 10:33pm PT
Statistically there are millions of more people that are in and using cars daily than there are guns being used.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 19, 2015 - 11:21pm PT
For many, if not most, driving is just another version of Russian Roulette.
Unfortunately, in this version it is often somebody else who suffers the
consequences.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 20, 2015 - 07:52am PT
That's what I'd expect from you, but I wasn't asking you. I was asking TE, because his is a classic gun-grabber rant, yet he frequently CLAIMS to have NO interest in "going after anybody's guns" (if, of course, they are legal to have them).

For a non-gun-grabber (unlike you), I'm panting to hear how ANY proposed law would have prevented this incident.

No gun-grabbing at all involved in my plan. Where did you get that?

Everybody keeps their guns. You can buy guns whenever you want under my plan. You just can't manufacture weapons anymore.

It might take centuries to have any effect, but just imagine. Maybe your great-great-great-great grandchildren won't have to carry a bulletproof backpack to school. Maybe when someone gets gunned down over road rage they won't yawn. Maybe they'll be shocked instead!
WBraun

climber
Feb 20, 2015 - 08:11am PT
You just can't manufacture weapons anymore.

Then they must outlaw beer bottles.

One can fill it with flammable and make molotov cocktail weapon.

One can break the bottle and hold by its neck and cutting weapon it becomes.

No more knives for everyone.

No more spud guns.

Mankind will have to become dead stone.
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