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crankster

Trad climber
Jun 5, 2014 - 09:35pm PT
Hospital gown or orange jumps, Rifleman Ron of the Oaf Keepers Militia, just a matter of time.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 5, 2014 - 10:31pm PT
Every time some f*#king idiot does something wrong with a gun i cringe a little and get really pissed, because the rest of us get the bloody finger pointed at us while being scolded as if we are somehow complacent and/or responsible for that small minority of once-legal owners who cant keep their sh#t straight, along with the criminals who never gave a sh#t about the legality of it from the start. Well f*#k them. And f*#k this guy too. And f*#k those who think i belong with that crowd simply for owning a gun. What a bunch of as#@&%es.

http://www.ktvn.com/story/25697156/safe-shot-manager-indicted-by-federal-grand-jury
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:11am PT
Every time some f*#king idiot does something wrong with a gun i cringe a little and get really pissed, because the rest of us get the bloody finger pointed at us while being scolded as if we are somehow complacent and/or responsible for that small minority of once-legal owners who cant keep their sh#t straight, along with the criminals who never gave a sh#t about the legality of it from the start.

If you believe criminals and the mentally ill should continue have easy access to guns, you deserve to have that finger pointed at you. If you don't, please call your congressman, senator, state representatives and NRA rep and ask them to represent your views, not the views of an industry that has a business need for criminals and mentally ill to easily have guns.

TE
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:23am PT
NOT ONE person, company, or manufacturer in the industry WANTS criminals and mentally ill to have a gun,, NOT ONE. What in idiotic statement.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:27am PT
NOT ONE person, company, or manufacturer in the industry WANTS criminals and mentally ill to have a gun,

I don't believe that. There is at least one person, company or manufacturer that will sell guns to criminals and the mentally ill. In fact there is definitely more than one.

DMT
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:29am PT
Criminals? Legal gun owners want criminals to have guns? Wow.

Oh, i get it. You mean the folks who object to widening background checks...

Here,s a helpful hint: get your idiot politicians to bring that kind of legislation to the table without all the other attachments like mag restrictions, ammo taxes, volume limits etc. Then maybe it will pass.

There are a lot of idiot people with guns. We could use less of that. I dont want mentally ill people or criminals to have guns.
But jesus, every time it comes up n a ballot or something the anti-gun crowd goes so far over the line they doom their own chance of success. Blind mother f*#kers, like the rest of politics.
Idiots all around.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:29am PT
PROVE THAT,Dingus, if you will...Id love to see that.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:30am PT
No you prove it. I really don't care. But someone is selling guns to criminals and the mentally ill and it ain't me.

DMT
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:32am PT
Read the paper Ron. Dingus is right, there are a limited few. Thats why the anti-gun crowd wants to lock it down for everyone. Thats why you have to do so many NICS checks, and why you have turned down sales based on your own gut instinct. Those limited few as#@&%es.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:35am PT
Yes indeed and its MOSTLY other criminals. Illegal guns made in foreign countrys FLOOD over and under the southern border daily. Those all going to persons sans any back ground checks, state or fed taxes and nary a question asked. Gun trade is the #1 commodity world wide.



The owner of safe shot in Reno was indeed a criminal who had been engaging in criminal activity for quite some time,, he WAS NOT a legitimate gun industry type. I dont think obama should ever be allowed to own a weapon because HE is a criminal as well. If he came into our store , i would reject his purchase. Just like i have many other criminal types attempting straw purchases. ;-) And then add to the roles the near 500K criminal gnag members here who acquired their guns illegally but are FULLY supported to be here by liberal politicians and the voters. They commit a large percentage of violent crime here so what do the voters do about that? They give them free benefits, welfare and education...
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:39am PT
Someone, IN THE INDUSTRY, is selling guns to criminals. Because the criminals are buying them and they don't fall off the backs of trucks, despite what the gangster movies might suggest.

Whether that makes them criminal is irrelevant.

DMT
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:47am PT
Irrelavent? Um, no. Totally relavent. When they cross that line you prosecute the sh#t out of them, like theyre doing with the Safe Shot owner.

Once you decide its irrelavent, you can make blanket statements and call for blanket bans and harsh restrictions since you apparently no longer differentiate between responsible owners and the minority who are not. Thats unjust to the majority of legal owners.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:51am PT
Weve been rather PRO active in policing our own.. My store goes ABOVE the ATFE requirements in its back ground checks and paper work..EACH CHECK is reviewed and initialed FOUR TIMES by management.. All the way up the line.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jun 6, 2014 - 08:11am PT
Irrelavent? Um, no. Totally relavent.

I guess you missed the point. Just because someone is a criminal doesn't mean they aren't in the gun industry by virtue of their crime. That sort of 'logic' won't fly with me. I didn't make the ridiculous claim that NO ONE in the gun industry wants to sell guns to criminals.

Face it, there are criminals in the gun industry who will sell guns to anyone. Why pretend otherwise?

Does this paint all law abiding gun industry folk a black eye?

Maybe.... maybe....

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jun 6, 2014 - 08:12am PT
Weve been rather PRO active in policing our own.. My store goes ABOVE the ATFE requirements in its back ground checks and paper work..EACH CHECK is reviewed and initialed FOUR TIMES by management.. All the way up the line.

That's a good thing and I think you also agreed its a good thing (going above and beyond the regs...)?

DMT
jstan

climber
Jun 6, 2014 - 08:37am PT
Weve been rather PRO active in policing our own.. My store goes ABOVE the ATFE requirements in its back ground checks and paper work..EACH CHECK is reviewed and initialed FOUR TIMES by management.. All the way up the line.

Initialing is supposed to mean that those signing, if found non-compliant, can and will be subject to criminal charges.

This conversation no longer consists of a discussion of the Constitution. We are making progress. We have gotten past the fake issue phase.

As a result of all the dead, charges will become common, grand juries will make their findings and jurisprudence will come into play.

Finally.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 6, 2014 - 08:41am PT
Yeah, missed the point. Oh well. What the hell am i doing here again? Hmm...
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jun 6, 2014 - 11:11am PT
Someone, IN THE INDUSTRY, is selling guns to criminals. Because the criminals are buying them and they don't fall off the backs of trucks


Hmmm.

I guess that there is no other way a criminal could get a gun. Certainly they wouldn't want to risk doing something illegal in order to acquire a firearm because the cops would always catch them and punish them.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jun 6, 2014 - 11:20am PT
Hmmm you mean every gun in the hands of a criminal was stolen?

I don't believe that.

I'm simply objecting to a blanket statement that no person, company or, hell I forget the 3rd one but it doesn't matter... that no person in the firearms industry wants to sell guns to criminals. I mean, come ON!

Carry on with the gun porn. I'm sorry for intruding.

DMT
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 6, 2014 - 12:55pm PT
A man accidentally shot and killed himself while driving Wednesday afternoon down a Tennessee highway, Chattanooga TV station WTVC reported.

James Anthony McKenzie, 49, shot himself in the thigh with a .45 caliber handgun as he drove, Meigs County Detective Scott Wiggins said. A call came in for deputies to respond to a seizure, he said, but when they arrived McKenzie had apparently bled to death from the wound in his thigh.

The man was in the car alone, according to WTVC, and deputies were trying to determine how the gun discharged. McKenzie held a valid permit for the firearm.
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