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Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 17, 2013 - 08:32pm PT
Agreed. Get on that.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 17, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
By voting yes today, they'd be handing the federal gov't over to the dems come next election.

The Tea Party would make sure of it.

yep

and the Tea Party has already cost the Republicans the US Senate

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 17, 2013 - 09:25pm PT
Maybe not so idiotic Hedge. If Reid wasn't there to oppose it, perhaps Yucca Mountain would open with the result being tens of billions in fed expenditures and thousands of good paying jobs. And of course any idiotic first termer wouldn't bite the hand of the mining and gaming industry that feeds them.The only industry/constituency that would be shortchanged would be the "undocumented democrats".
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Apr 17, 2013 - 09:34pm PT

Dems just have to wait a few more election cycles - then we get to do whatever we want.


Sounds like a democracy I'd love to live in! Just kidding, I'm enjoying a land where we are free, mostly because there are fewer dummies and far fewer rules.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 17, 2013 - 09:36pm PT
LMAO Hedge at your conversion
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 17, 2013 - 09:39pm PT
actually,

excellent sarcasm, Hedge!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 17, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
Senators need guns....they certainly don't have guts. There is quite a positive correlation between gun ownership and weak stomachs.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 17, 2013 - 09:45pm PT
Regardless of why your singing the tune, eventually with enough repeats you'll begin to believe it. Go to your own training manuals Hedge for validation on this technique.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 17, 2013 - 09:45pm PT
well,

both Ron Anderson and myself are disappointed with the Senate today

both of us support increased background checks
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 17, 2013 - 09:46pm PT
weak
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 17, 2013 - 10:39pm PT
Pinning your hopes for gun control, Norton, on the chance that repub party would go along with it, thereby committing political suicide, was probably never very realistic, right?

Dare I hope you're starting to see the light?


saying I support even a watered down bill because it is better than nothing is being realistic, Joe

and no Joe, your comment is flat wrong about ME seeing the light

if you are going to come after me then you better prove your sh#t, and thus far your little comment has no basis

you started this Joe, why I don't know, maybe your ass holeness is just coming out AGAIN
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 17, 2013 - 10:44pm PT
Can we all stop hoarding now so I can go buy a few plinker rounds for my .22?
Buy a pressure cooker instead, 'cause those are about to go black-market. And they make artichoke pretty tasty.
Thanks.
(offended response in 3...2....)
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Apr 17, 2013 - 11:03pm PT
jhedge, I don't share your confidence that in just a few years the second amendment will be repealed, but neither do I think that repeal is necessary to achieve a significant reduction in gun violence, one that will feed on itself over time to reduce further deaths.

The supreme court has ruled that reasonable restrictions on gun ownership are constitutional; repeated challenges to the Brady Bill failed. Most of all the words are simply the right to KEEP and BEAR. There is nothing about not infringing on licensed dealers or private sellers, nothing prohibiting laws on responsible ownership or responsible sales. Nothing about bullets, the founding fathers knew guns needed ammunition, if they had wanted unrestricted sales of guns and bullets, they would have said so.

I don't have a goal of eliminating guns, the goal is significantly reducing deaths and injuries. Laws that restrict access to guns by prohibited persons and serious penalties for irresponsible ownership will reduce violence, it will take time, but it can happen sooner than repeal of the second amendment. Reduced violence will reduce demand for guns, fewer law-abiding people will feel the need to own guns, and less crazies will already have a gun at home when they do go over the edge.

Guns are not like drugs, there is a legitimate market for law-abiding people, the margin and scale is not there for a significant international black market, criminals will not smuggle guns from Fuktupistan when they can smuggle drugs. Eliminate the sources of illegal guns, and you will reduce illegal guns. Straw purchases, "private" sales, burglary.

TE


TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 17, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
I don't have a goal of eliminating guns, the goal is significantly reducing deaths and injuries. Laws that restrict access to guns by prohibited persons and serious penalties for irresponsible ownership will reduce violence,

We already have plenty of those.

You are correct though, only 4% think that gun control is a serious issue.

If this bunch is representative, about 2/3rds of those think that further restrictions are the serious issue.

That puts Mr. Unhinged in the 2%

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 17, 2013 - 11:24pm PT
Hey guys- i haven't seen anything on this thread lately about addressing the culture of violence worship that spurs a good many of these young wackos and inner city hoodlums to emulate what they have learned and witnessed since an early age. Now, if the congress would conjoin an assault (like)weapon restriction and strengthened background checks with limitation on access to violent video games and the disgusting trash on various readily available mediums it just might garner enough common sense support for passage. Just a thought....
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 17, 2013 - 11:44pm PT
Do they Hedge? Have you been to any of these other countries you mention and sampled their media, watched what their kids are seeing, or are you just reciting what you have heard? I'm not being confrontational so please don't launch an attack.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Apr 17, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
Sorry to interrupt, but I thought this was pretty f*#king funny:
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 18, 2013 - 12:20am PT
I guess it just ingrained in the pysche after many decades in towns like Chicago, home of Al Capone and the Valentines day massacre. Now that place is a worthy laboratory-they should try restricting access there to start with.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 18, 2013 - 12:22am PT
Snort,, chuckle,, GUFFAW!
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 18, 2013 - 12:44am PT
Just diving Joe in a dumpster near you.
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