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Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 28, 2014 - 09:43am PT
Nothing bad can possibly happen when you combine women, children, guns...
Nothing bad can possibly happen when you combine women, children, guns and the NRA...
Credit: Jingy

 You keep repeating "Nothing bad will happen" enough.... you start to think its true....



This is the type of ridiculous sh#t I hate to see from humans who, on the one hand tell me they are adult enough to carry a gun in public...

I'd like to call it what I see it to be..

What do you get when you put 7 billion humans on a planet and give some of the humans the impression that they are better than all others in one location of the planet...how are all those egos going to get the attention they think they need in order to survive...

Guns are not needed to survive... To illustrate this I have a 2 part request any gun nut to answer: When was the first gun produced? How did humans survive the hostile and cruel world before then?

You see, as soon as a nut gets onto a thing they say needs to be, I have to take a step back and ask what happened before that thing became needed?

When I find I have to make up something, or draw in conclusions that aren't there I tend to think of myself as lying... disingenuous, lacking integrity.

Only part of the reason I lump religion in with guns and say we wouldn't need either if we only realized we need each other to survive.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Aug 28, 2014 - 09:50am PT
Nothing bad happens on thousands of ranges and sporting shooting events around the country every single day....

And ....even with CHILDREN!!!....

I know.. the horror.

But, as with anything, if you make mistakes people can get hurt or killed.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 28, 2014 - 10:00am PT
But, as with anything, if you make mistakes people can get hurt or killed.

 good reason to have open carry, concealed carry and general gun presence in everyday life would be a good idea...

We just gotta take the good with the bad I guess... so what if a mistake happens while I'm walking by some nut with a gun on hand... oops.. mistake

I'm totally willing to live in the society you propose, but I cannot be expected to sit by an not point out stupid when I see it...

I'll go find the mirror now.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Aug 28, 2014 - 10:06am PT
Back on point. Prohibiting kids from using such weapons might save a life or two, but there are far more serious problems with current gun laws. I sincerely hope the family of this instructor, or perhaps OSHA can sue that range owner into bankruptcy. While it may be legal to allow a small child to shoot such a weapon, it could be done safely, but not by handing a small child an untethered sub-machine gun with a full magazine.

TE
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Aug 28, 2014 - 10:17am PT
So... what IS is with Arizona and gun nuts, yall?

They seem a bit beyond the typical Whack....

DMT
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Aug 28, 2014 - 10:20am PT
Nothing bad happens on thousands of ranges and sporting shooting events around the country every single day....

CDC says otherwise: 606 people were killed and 14,000 injured by accidental discharges of firearms in 2010.

TE
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
Aug 28, 2014 - 10:21am PT
I avoid threads with Jefe and Leggs in them for this very reason!!!! They come off as Super-Ready-to-Kill-Anyone ;)



-JR
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 28, 2014 - 10:55am PT
I avoid threads with Jefe and Leggs in them for this very reason!!!! They come off as Super-Ready-to-Kill-Anyone ;)

 not sure I can agree with this statement...

But it's funny to imagine...
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
Aug 28, 2014 - 11:23am PT
I thought it'd be an obvious joke, seeing as they seem pretty laid back and cool. I'll delete it if it's missing the mark.



-JR
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Aug 28, 2014 - 01:22pm PT
No, their brains are squirming like a toad.

DMT
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 28, 2014 - 05:11pm PT
Guns are not needed to survive... To illustrate this I have a 2 part request any gun nut to answer: When was the first gun produced? How did humans survive the hostile and cruel world before then?

Are you really this clueless, or are you a troll?

WEAPONS are needed to survive! As the bar gets raised over time, such that the threats gain more sophisticated weaponry, the right of self-defense will need to acquire more sophisticated weaponry.

From the dawn of consciousness, it's been an arms race. Are you really too dim to see that?
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 28, 2014 - 05:11pm PT
I will move to Copenhagen, with Werner, and we will live happily ever after, even though it's flat.

Don't wait!

Do it now!
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Aug 28, 2014 - 05:18pm PT
From the dawn of consciousness, it's been an arms race.

Kill or be killed. Man that's some philosophy. Something a tiger or a scorpion would know, like in their genes.

DMT
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Aug 28, 2014 - 08:15pm PT
Yeah - happiness definitely is a warm gun. Just oozes from the pores of Arizona.

zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Aug 28, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
WEAPONS are needed to survive! As the bar gets raised over time, such that the threats gain more sophisticated weaponry, the right of self-defense will need to acquire more sophisticated weaponry.

Are you a clueless troll, apparently so.
John M

climber
Aug 28, 2014 - 08:20pm PT
I feel bad for the little girl.

I can't even imagine what she is going through.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Aug 28, 2014 - 09:12pm PT
I feel bad for the little girl.

Me too.
Daphne

Trad climber
Northern California
Aug 28, 2014 - 10:03pm PT
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/nation-debates-extremely-complex-issue-children-firing-military-weapons




CREDIT PHOTOGRAPH BY SVEN NACKSTRAND/AFP/GETTY
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Across the United States on Wednesday, a heated national debate began on the extremely complex issue of children firing military weapons.

“Every now and then, the nation debates an issue that is so complicated and tricky it defies easy answers,” says pollster Davis Logsdon. “Letting small children fire automatic weapons is such an issue.”


Logsdon says that the thorny controversy is reminiscent of another ongoing national debate, about whether it is a good idea to load a car with dynamite and drive it into a tree.

“Many Americans think it’s a terrible idea, but others believe that with the correct supervision, it’s perfectly fine,” he says. “Who’s to say who’s right?”

Similar, he says, is the national debate about using a flamethrower indoors. “There has been a long and contentious national conversation about this,” he says. “It’s another tough one.”

Much like the long-running national debates about jumping off a roof, licking electrical sockets, and gargling with thumbtacks, the vexing question of whether children should fire military weapons does not appear headed for a swift resolution.

“Like the issue of whether you should sneak up behind a bear and jab it with a hot poker, this won’t be settled any time soon,” he says.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Aug 28, 2014 - 11:36pm PT
nation-debates-extremely-complex-issue-children-firing-military-weapons
Degaine

climber
Aug 29, 2014 - 12:38am PT
Dave Kos wrote:
What would be the climbing parallel to this story?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/28/us-mountaineer-condemned-filming-children-mont-blanc-avalanche
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