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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:09am PT
How many times a year is the estimate of how many times a gun holder thwarts a crime.??


http://www.akdart.com/gun3.html
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:18am PT
ahhh, Andrew K Dart... now THERE'S a credible source!



How many of those involved large capacity magazines?

How many required the ability to purchase 1 gun a month?

How many would have not been possible without stricter background checks?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:19am PT
Dart would probably count the guy above as thwarting a crime.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:20am PT
http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/danieljmitchell/2012/02/08/cato_study_shows_private_gun_ownership_reduces_crime_saves_lives/page/full/
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:23am PT
Exactly mono!


Ron, ignore the radicals like hedge for a minute. Nobody in their right mind is proposing to take guns intended for self-defense away from legal, responsible gun owners. Answer the following:

How many of those involved large capacity magazines?

How many required the ability to purchase 1 gun a month?

How many would have not been possible without stricter background checks?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:25am PT
yu guys are quite the judge and jury over 30 some seconds of video..Thankfully your NOT on that business.

So how MANT TIMES does a gun owner thwart crime here?




edit: To answer Wes,, mag capacitys have little or nothing to do with anything.. 1.5 seconds per reload of a mag, that is ALL.

None of the thousands of gun owners i know have ever sold a gun to someone who couodnt have one legally. Back ground checks and state run agencies have been doing a good job of denials- this happens frequently..Keeping arms away from the criminal element is a GOOD idea. However, the crminal element does not follow this logic at all. You see,, in America, once the people decide they want something they will get it regardless of laws.. See mary jane for references.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:27am PT
Ron, sucker punching someone is bullsh#t... pulling a gun when you start losing the fight you started makes you a pussy... sorry you can't see/accept that.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:28am PT
He and the wife are already charged, Anderson.

Funny how you can't see that.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:33am PT
All i saw was 30 secnds of video..Now if the guy has been charged then he was in the wrong most likely. But if that was posted to emulate the majority,, it did not hit the mark. The guy, having a ccw permit broke about every guidline for that permit. His actions do not represent the millions of CCW holders out there.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:36am PT
You couldn't decide for yourself unless he was charged?

Without the video, it would have been 'he said, she said'.

None of the thousands of gun owners i know have ever sold a gun to someone who couodnt have one legally

Such dumbass hyperbole.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:37am PT
from a 30 second vid??? No....
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:37am PT
The guy, having a ccw permit broke about every guidline for that permit. His actions do not represent the millions of CCW holders out there.

true

but how did you know he had a CCL?

I didn't see anything in the video to indicate that, but I did not have the sound on, did he say that?

was there some news reporting afterward or something?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:38am PT
Really, Anderson. If you were shown that video, each side claiming to be innocent, you couldn't form an opinion?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:39am PT
just making an assumption Norton,, from all of 30 seconds of video..Im talking about CCW holders.



And Mono,, ho i couldnt decide squat from a 30 secnd vid like that. Anyone saying they can jumps to conclusions.

What i DID say is that the man with the gun violated ALL policy regarding the use of a concealed weapon..I have NO idea what caused that situation to begin with. You CAN threaten someone on the roadways by driving like idiots,, as a car is quite equal to the dangers of a gun.

But he should have NEVER pulled a weapon- as it seems he did start the physical acts. He should have NEVER shot a warning round either.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:45am PT
mag capacitys have little or nothing to do with anything.. 1.5 seconds per reload of a mag, that is ALL.

They appear to help slaughter innocent children when psychos get a hold of them. But, since they have little or nothing to do with anything, why would you be opposed to limiting mag capacity?

None of the thousands of gun owners i know have ever sold a gun to someone who couodnt have one legally.

You know thousands of people well enough to say, with absolute certainty, that they have never sold a gun to someone who couldn't have one legally? Would you be willing to testify on their behalf in the event they were accused of such an action?

Back ground checks and state run agencies have been doing a good job of denials- this happens frequently..Keeping arms away from the criminal element is a GOOD idea. However, the crminal element does not follow this logic at all.

It has been well established where most guns used in crimes come from. They don't come from Mexico, China, or Canada. They come from gun shops in the good ol USA.

The criminal element follows the logic of the system very effectively. Someone with a clean record who is willing to buy a gun a month and sell it can make bank.

How many of those thousands of gun owners you know buy 12 new guns a year?




just making an assumption

as always


He should have NEVER shot a warning round either.

Warning shot...hahahaaaaa... if he did shoot, it was purely by ACCIDENT as he was holding the gun in both hands (0:19). But I don't think he did... sounded more like a car door slamming to me, but I'm no gun expert....hahahahahaaaaa



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57576310/road-rage-video-leads-to-n.c-couples-arrest/


This just in:
"The two men stop the beating when Turner's wife, Christy Marie Turner, exits their vehicle with a gun and hands it to her husband, who then allegedly fired shots into the other car. The shooting was not caught on tape."
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:49am PT
Well Ron,

a LOT more people carry guns than have a CCL for them

here in New Mexico we have open carry law

but that guy pulled it ouf from under his jacket or shirt

so I can see why you might guess he had a CCL to carry concealed legally

but I sure wouldn't assume it
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:55am PT
nobody ever answers my questions..


NOW MANY TIMES per year does a ccw holder thwart a crime.??
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 10:58am PT
How many guns do you buy a year ron?


A woman then calmly walks out of the SUV and gives the man a pistol. He points it at the men who beat them up, who hurry into the pickup and drive away as the man fires several shots.

As monolith pointed out, without the video this would have been one of the many cases where a CCW was reported to have thwarted a crime.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 26, 2013 - 11:00am PT
NOW MANY TIMES per year does a ccw holder thwart a crime.??


I suppose there is no way for sure to know but my guess is quite a few times

but no one here is talking about taking guns away from CCW holders

in fact other than Joe Hedge, no one is talking about confiscating any guns at all
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 26, 2013 - 11:00am PT
EXACTLY what Norton said.
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