The Gun debate sandbox

Search
Go

Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List
Post a Reply
Messages 3801 - 3820 of total 5785 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
Dammit Ron I am sending you a bill to clean the mocha and mucus off of my keyboard.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:13pm PT
Guns on a sub can be used for whatever situations that require it, both external and internal.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:14pm PT
And NO SHERRIFS, no local LEOs, no local Natl guard and no military types will have a thing to do with gun confiscation in the USA.

Well then, why do gun nuts keep going off about their guns being confiscated?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
Because,, those same local LEOs are being intimidated and threatened by the FEDS if they dont go along with bans..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:22pm PT
I thought you were talking about CONFISCATION, not bans, because that is the word you used.

What CONFISCATIONS are you talking about Ron? Be specific.

What BANS are you talking about?

Because the LEO's I know would be happy to limit the firepower the average crazy has access to at Walmart.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:25pm PT
They want to ban high cap. mags in Colo, and 21 counties have said no to those ban proposals and have recieved intimidation from the Senate levels. They are calling for the COLO AG to investigate the matter.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:25pm PT
Those aren't CONFISCATIONS.

And NO SHERRIFS, no local LEOs, no local Natl guard and no military types will have a thing to do with gun confiscation in the USA.


"An overwhelming majority of Coloradans support limiting these high-capacity ammunition magazines and it's our job in the legislature to implement the will of the people," said House assistant Majority Leader Dan Pabon, D-Denver.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
Yes Wes,, that is resistance to even a ban, let alone confiscations..
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:39pm PT
SHlT!

Just when I thought it might be good to move back to Colorado!
(Maybe get a raincoat and check out Washington.)



Lets see; guns on a sub?
Snakes on a plane?
Lizards on the Zion shuttle?
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
Don't forget sloths in Congress.


mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
You claim there is resistance. The newspapers claim the vast majority of citizens want bans on high cap mags.

I don't see the resistance articulated in any news. At best LEO's are divided over some of the bills, but NOT banning high cap mags.

From the Colorado Springs Gazette a couple days ago:

In response to concerns from law enforcement, the billís author made an 18 page amendment to the roughly 20 page bill. She said the County Sheriffs of Colorado and the Colorado Association of Chiefs of Police now support the bill.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/bill-151976-senate-college.html#ixzz2NGLSVEda


Sorry, my bad. I forgot this is a place for you to spout off your unsupported opinion as if it were fact. Carry on.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
http://www.infowars.com/colorado-sheriffs-senate-dems-threatening-pay-freezes-over-gun-control-opposition/


and


http://www.examiner.com/article/sheriffs-will-not-enforce-obama-gun-control-laws-and-list-reasons-for-defiance

and

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/01/29/no-on-gun-control-non-partisan-colorado-sheriff-group-opposes-magazine-limit-assault-weapon-ban/



and


http://obamaballotchallenge.com/growing-list-of-sheriffs-saying-no-to-obama-gun-control-no-sheriff-arpaio-yet



enough ? For a "researcher" you sure fell flat there.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 11, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
Ron, do yourself a favor and take a quick look at the sources and dates on those... try some critical thinking skills while you are at it.

"Maketa made the allegations Saturday morning on the Jeff Crank Radio Show on KVOR. He said he got an email from a member of the County Sheriffs of Colorado describing a verbal conversation that person had with someone connected to Senate democrats."

That is vague bullshit by anyone's standards. Basically you have ONE staunch Republican sheriff referring to a email from an unidentified person within his own organization (CSOC) who also clearly stated...

"I do not believe this would be sacrificing our principals or position on other gun bills."

The bill in question has NOTHING to do with high cap magazines:

Senate Bill 197 creates a mechanism to remove guns from people who are prohibited in federal law from possessing firearms because of certain types of domestic violence convictions or domestic violence protection orders.

Do you support Bill 197? Can you think of ANY SANE REASON an LEO would be opposed to Bill 197?

It ain't even close to extortion or intimidation. The Senate votes on a pay INCREASE for the law enforcement. Not getting a pay raise is NOT extortion, especially during tough economic times. This is nothing more than a political trick from a Republican in a very conservative area. It is petty and pathetic.

The other articles were from over a month ago.

For someone who doesn't know the difference between research and a google search, you sure do pretend to know what you are talking about.
jghedge

climber
Mar 11, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
"enough ? For a "researcher" you sure fell flat there."


You think cut-and-pasting from wingnut websites is "research"

Here's the current front page of the most credible source you cited:

http://www.examiner.com/?cid=PROG-Logo

Credit: jghedge

Something not even a child would believe in (AKA The Gospel According To Rong)

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
Wes,, the 21 COLO sheriffs were in th NATL news last week.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 11, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
Ron, read what I wrote. Try to understand it. Stop being an idiot.

They opposed Bill 1229, which wasn't even mentioned in the "intimidation" bullshit radio show you posted. They opposed it because it was "unenforceable." I feel for the Sheriffs. I have testified in front of law makers on water/erosion issues and they only hear what they want to hear. They generally have their minds made up before the testimony even begins... "will it get me more votes? will it get me more money?"

Simple as that.

It does NOT mean CSOC is opposed to banning high cap mags or some of the other bills. Which Sheriff testified against HB 1224, the one limiting mag capacity? That's right... take your time...
jghedge

climber
Mar 11, 2013 - 01:41pm PT
"Wes,, the 21 COLO sheriffs were in th NATL news last week."

And they're going to refuse to enforce laws passed by their own state legislature, or pretend to be able to interpret the Constitution on their own...riiiight.


Back to 3rd grade for you, son. Try not to get to upset at the other little kids laughing at how stupid you are compared to them.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Mar 11, 2013 - 09:51pm PT
Jesus... you guys are still at this?

I think when it hits 4000 you all need to kiss or something...
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 11, 2013 - 10:53pm PT
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/11/half-naked-man-with-assault-rifle-shoots-up-bar-killing-one-in-pennsylvania/
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 12, 2013 - 12:18pm PT




just for a guffaw...Borrowed from DirtClaud!
Messages 3801 - 3820 of total 5785 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Return to Forum List
Post a Reply
 
Our Guidebooks
Check 'em out!
SuperTopo Guidebooks


Try a free sample topo!

 
SuperTopo on the Web

Review Categories
Recent Route Beta
Recent Gear Reviews