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jghedge

climber
Mar 11, 2013 - 10:18am PT
"We can compare guns to cars (again) but correct me if I'm wrong... I don't need a license to operate a gun, my gun's serial number is not linked to me when I buy it, I don't have to register my gun registration to ensure my gun is safe, I don't have to renew my non-existent gun license every few years, and the "tests" to buy a gun are absurdly easy."

Or have gun insurance - if there even is such a thing.

Or gun accident statistics, which the NRA successfully lobbied to eliminate the research for. Imagine if the AAA lobbied to have auto accident research killed.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 10:18am PT
Reilly,, that 300 MIL is more like 590 Mil now....

And NO SHERRIFS, no local LEOs, no local Natl guard and no military types will have a thing to do with gun confiscation in the USA. Ive yet to find one of those persons that will.. So i guess its up to the loudmouth to come confiscate my guns.. And my double barrels await ...
jghedge

climber
Mar 11, 2013 - 10:21am PT
"How are those 300 million guns out there gonna be confiscated?
You can't use the Army and I doubt they will use the National Guard so
how is it gonna happen?""

The same way it was done in other countries.

You do know it's actually been done, right? And that I'm basing my entire argument on actual reality in other countries, where it actually was done, and actually works?
jghedge

climber
Mar 11, 2013 - 10:23am PT
"So i guess its up to the loudmouth to come confiscate my guns.. And my double barrels await ..."

Hahahahaha, the very attitude that'll get them taken away. The same way wingnut conservatives always get civil rights issues resolved faster than they otherwise would.

They never learn.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 11, 2013 - 10:27am PT
Absolutely, 100% we should have far better health services. Hopefully all those who are fighting so hard for or against gun regulations are fighting just as hard to ensure better health services.

Unfortunately several southern republicans are lobbying to let people troubled with mental health issues have guns. How does that make sense?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 11, 2013 - 10:27am PT
hedge, I do believe I asked for specifics. I really doubt that you can
provide any proof that any military or police entity in any Western democracy
has ever gone door-to-door confiscating weapons. The only way they have
achieved a modicum of gun control in Europe is by limiting production and
sales, primarily of handguns. There is no shortage of rifles in Europe.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 10:28am PT
interesting that since i posted this am and now,, 45 guns have been added to the tally of american weaponry. And the day is young.. Hoooorah...!



edit: Most violent homicidal countries: Brazil, Mexico, Venezuala and Columbia.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 11, 2013 - 10:37am PT
This "There coming to take your guns" argument is just nothing more than paranoid rightwing fear mongering BS.

You know that street fight I broke up a little over a month ago would have turned out very differently if guns had been involved. For one thing instead of simply subduing the punk ass I would likely have seriously injured or killed him with my bare hands for pulling a gun on me. If you are going to pull a gun on me you better be damned ready to use it before I get my hands on you. As it was, without guns involved there was no harm and no foul. I have been threatened with guns before.
It did not turn out like the perp thought it would.


Curious, why do they want teachers to carry guns when sailors aboard submarines can't?
And why can't I go to my local Home Depot or Wall Mart and buy dynamite?
jghedge

climber
Mar 11, 2013 - 10:48am PT
"I really doubt that you can provide any proof that any military or police entity in any Western democracy has ever gone door-to-door confiscating weapons."

That's because that's not how they did it. Possession in the UK is now up to 10 years in prison. Subsequently the UK had 35 gun deaths last year, 20 of which were suicides.

15 gun murders in a country of 60 million! In the country most closely aligned culturally and historically with our own! How much more evidence do you need?





Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:03am PT
Philo,, submarines have locking hatches.. NO ONE gets in under water.

no brainer there....
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:05am PT
And why can't I go to my local Home Depot or Wall Mart and buy dynamite?

Because none of us would survive the dynamite being handled by their empolyees.

Oh, and the right to buy dynamite isn't in the Constitution.
Good luck with that being changed.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:07am PT
There are guns on submarines. They are kept well secure. Much like the way citizens should store their guns, but generally don't.

No brainer.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:15am PT
Actually, back in the '80s I would buy dynamite from the hardware store 3 miles from here.



Anti-gun douchenozzle Chuck Schumer just gave a press conference to denounce the loosening of the knife restrictions by the TSA.
The knife he held up as a prop had a locking blade and is actually NOT permitted under the new rules.

What an idiot!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:17am PT
Im wondering why Philo wants to buy dynamite..taking chipping to a new level or sumpn??
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:42am PT
Hahaha good one Ron.

Dynamite was used in the worst school massacre in US history. Shortly after that horrific event laws were passed to strictly control access to dynamite.
I have to admit it is damn fun to blow sh#t up with it though.


My point is that on Nuke Subs the guns are securely locked away and have to be "issued"
They must have a reason.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:54am PT
They arent required in a sealed tube. And IF a Sailor gets the willies ( some do thier first time below) they wont go to shootin up the tube. An endless ricochet sort of thang i would imagine.

Yet when they surface, they manned the guns..
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:54am PT
^^^^ Bingo
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:55am PT
Unforunatly submarine schools would be hella crowded and expensive.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:57am PT
Friken Lol. Ron we don't always agree, but when we do I enjoy your wry wit.

Schools in subs would substantially reduce ditching classes.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:59am PT
I think we may be onto something here. Being expelled could be a whole new thing!

" Loading torpedo tube #1"!!!!!!!
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