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Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 04:59pm PT
Joe, it's fun to poke a little fun at you only because you think all gun owners are gun nuts. Similarly, gun owners could say all reasonable gun control advocates are like yappy little poodles, when in truth only gun outlawing and confiscation nuts such as yourself are like yappy little poodles.
jghedge

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
"...when in truth only gun outlawing and confiscation nuts such as yourself are like yappy little poodles."


Hahaha, or maybe we're just aware of what's going on outside of Gun Nut Fantasy World

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom


Understanding reality might help you look less uninformed.

Just for starters.
WTF

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
Listen Hedge while you can spin it all you want anyway you want Gross negligence is gross negligence if its a gun or a car or.....

If the people of this country keep giving up their rights freely because some f*#king wack job does something like that asshat in Con. then we will eventually end up with no rights.

You live in California? Those dip shits are the model for america to come look at Prop 30 you create a welfare state and then you introduce legislation to screw hard working people out of their money so you can keep a bunch of people on the dole and you eventually get to pass everything you want because the majority of these lazy f*#ks sucking the tit will never bite the hand that feeds them.

Homeboy and his crew of sh#t birds can spray all the stimulus crap they want at everyone but in the end they are just buying time to tank the dollar create more dependency on the government and if given the chance take our guns i suppose but ill just ignore that and keep reloading, and buying supplies as needed until I have enough to make sure me and my family will be able to take care of ourselves and not be dependent on any government. Do I think the 1% could and should pay a little more sure they have it, the 1% made 11% INCREASE ON THEIR WEALTH Last year.

George f*#king Sorros made a billion dollars last year f*#king with the currency rate at the expense of all of us so do the math and understand whats really going on.

Ok Superretards see ya at the cliff, ill be the guy telling you to get your f*#king dog off my rope and take that tofu sh#t smelling sandwich and stuff it up your a*#.

Good day!
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:13pm PT
Joe, this is not the United Kingdom. Recognizing that might make you look less uninformed, and less frothing at the mouth crazy.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
So Joe, how about some compromise? What do you think of universal background checks, and development of smart gun technology, which would limit the enabled guns to firing only in the hands of the background checked owner?

WTF

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:28pm PT
Monkeys always seem to figure out the lock whether its key's or combo's.







Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:34pm PT
Finger print recognition of owner on gun maybe?
jghedge

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
"So Joe, how about some compromise? What do you think of universal background checks, and development of smart gun technology, which would limit the enabled guns to firing only in the hands of the background checked owner?"

Sure - but smart guns are no more likely to happen than pigs to start flying, and the NRA opposes it.

Universal background checks won't keep guns away from anyone, and the NRA opposes it.

What would be your recommendation to get our gun deaths down to the level of countries that have outlawed them, without outlawing them?

Mine is to just let things continue along as they are, and guns will inevitably be banned - it's just another social issue that wingnut conservatives accelerate their defeat on, as they always have and always will. Liberals have learned by now to just sit back and watch.

"if you sit by the banks of the river long enough, the bodies of all your enemies will go floating by." Sun Tzu, The Art Of War

Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
Norton, I was thinking base of thumb print has to be in contact and read for the gun to fire. If someone rips it out of your hand(s) it becomes disabled.

Or if your teenager gets ahold of it, or it's stolen, etc.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
Joe, it's incongruous for you to think the NRA will be able to stop universal background checks and smartgun technology but they won't be able to stop outlawing guns altogether. And it's silly to think the outlawing of guns in this country is inevitable.

And by the way, the rate of gun murders in this country now is half what it was 20 years ago. Seems like a good trend that can be improved upon even more without abolishing the 2nd amendment.
jghedge

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
"And it's silly to think the outlawing of guns in this country is inevitable."

Learn your social issue history. 12,000 gun deaths a year, when other countries have virtually none, is a civil rights issue that won't continue to be swept under the carpet for very much longer.

And the NRA is right - gun control laws don't work, they're instituted state-by-state, which means nothing. The NRA is actually working more effectively to outlaw guns than any other lobbyist - inadvertently, as wingnut conservatives always do for their causes.

The gun nuts will mount some little pissant insurrection, which one Apache helicopter will take about 20 minutes to put down. And then the Gun Nut Era will end.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:55pm PT
Joe:

What would be your recommendation to get our gun deaths down to the level of countries that have outlawed them, without outlawing them?

Mine is to just let things continue along as they are, and guns will inevitably be banned

It's just as logical to think, that if we all do nothing then in sixty years our gun homicide rate will be what it is in Britain now, and guns won't have to be outlawed nor the 2nd amendment repealed.

If our gun homicide rate is halved every twenty years, then by 2074 (oops, I goofed, more like 2144) we will have the same gun homicide rate as the UK. Problem solved, if you think the world is a linear place, and you seem to be a big fan of linear thinking. This reality should make you very happy as you can achieve your goal of reaching the UK's gun homicide rate by doing what you plan to do, nothing.
jghedge

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
"This reality should make you very happy as you can achieve your goal of the reaching the UK's gun homicide rate by doing what you plan to do, nothing."

Actually I plan on doing nothing - because the gun nuts are the most effective lobbyists for outlawing guns. People like the 2 Rong's we have here make the case far better than I could.

This chart shows gun homicides averaging around 8,000 up to 2004, correct?
We're at 12,000 now. How is that a reduction? You think they're diminishing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ushomicidesbyweapon.svg
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
Joe:

inadvertently, wingnut conservatives always do for their causes.

Just like when the wingnut conservatives rallied almost the entire country to support an unnecessary, immoral even, war in Iraq? Is that what you mean?
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
The rate of firearms-related murders in 2011 was 3.2 per 100,000 people a sharp decline from 1993 when the rate of firearms-related murders was 6.6 per 100,000 people.

http://nbcnews.to/R33m32
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
To use your parlance Joe, it's inevitable that reasonable people will look for reasonable ways to further accelerate the rate of decline in our gun homicide rate without outlawing guns and without repealing the 2nd amendment.
jghedge

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
"The rate of firearms-related murders in 2011 was 3.2 per 100,000 people a sharp decline from 1993 when the rate of firearms-related murders was 6.6 per 100,000 people."

But before and after that it was around 8000. "93 was a statistical anomaly. Look at the 30 year average the chart illustrates, and compare that to now. There's more gun deaths now, not less.

Credit: jghedge

Sredni Vashtar

Social climber
The coastal redwoods
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
chaps, stop bringing the UK into it. Maybe Canada is a better choice for comparison.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
Look up the frequency of road rage incidents where people use vehicles as weapons, even on pedestrians or people in their own yards.

Hold on for the strawman sleigh ride! weeeee


Maybe Canada is a better choice for comparison.

Doesn't have the population density. Violent crime and population density are correlated. Which is why UK having 3x the population density (and, as expected, 3x the violent crime rate) but 1/3 the gun deaths says it all.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
Joe Hedge stated:
And the NRA is right - gun control laws don't work, they're instituted state-by-state, which means nothing.

really, Joe?

then explain to me WHY Alaska has THE loosest gun laws and THE highest gun death rate

and Massachusetts has THE toughest gun laws and THE lowest gun death rate


explain how "gun laws don't work", Joe, when confronted with directly 100% contradictory evidence that proves you WRONG

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