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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Bluering how very polite of you.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Bluering how very polite of you.
I never claimed to be polite. Especially in a debate about the 2nd Amendment. And especially with a pretentious prick who calls the writers of the 2nd a bunch of out-dated fools.
Sorry if you were offended.
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John M
climber
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Aw crap..
see you guys. have fun in the sand pit. I'm out.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Hey Bluering do you know that since the fall out over the threadageddon known as BoobGate I have gone over 100 posts without a single snarky personal attack or ad-homonym put down.
How ya like me now?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Things have changed, owning guns to pretend to fight off the US Armed forces is well, ludicrous.
agreed...and now that I think about it, Things have changed, owning guns based on a need to hunt is well, ludicrous as well.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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agreed...and now that I think about it, Things have changed, owning guns based on a need to hunt is well, ludicrous as well.
I don't own firearms to hunt, but I'm not opposed to fresh venison or boar. That sh#t is tasty!
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Clean Meat?-Dirty Cop?
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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Where can you buy a gun w/o photo ID?
Any private transaction, at least in most states. And not required for bullets anywhere I know of.
TE
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Norton,, do you want CHI towns gun laws in NM?
no, Ron
Albuquerque is not Chicago, we do not have the huge demographics of pocketed poverty and abject joblessness that fuel gun violence that Chicago does
what is right for Chicago is not necessarily right for another city, no one size fits all
Ron, I think Democracy "works" in an often ugly sausage making way, meaning the citizens of each local elect their legislators to enact what law they want or not
New Mexico IS the "old west" with open carry and "shall issue" CCL laws
what works here does not mean citizens in other states want it in theirs
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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That's awesome that you only eat what you hunt Ron..if that's true.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Chris Wallace, not Mike his father
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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what works here does not mean citizens in other states want it in theirs The problem is that strict requirements in one state or city will only reduce legal access (fine by me too), while being virtually ineffective at stopping criminals, because criminals will just drive 50, 100 or 500 miles and buy guns there. Only federal restrictions will have any real bite.
TE
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Perhaps this is a dandy example of tyranny, that the govt in ITS desires can classify such a weapon as "personal defense" while wanting the citizenry to have gramps double barrel 12 gauge.
Wow, tyranny eh? Wow. Sounds more like semantics to me. Pretty sure any weapon assigned to an individual in the military is termed a "personal weapon."
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Especially in a debate about the 2nd Amendment.
Ah yes, "debating" all 27 words in the 2nd amendment as it relates to semi auto assault weapons... based on the inferred intentions of our founding fathers... who never in their lives saw a single cartridge.
these are NOT being assigned to any military.
They are testing them you dipsh#t. Read the actual document, not just the bullshit blogs.
"A personal weapon or ordnance weapon is a weapon that is issued to an individual member of a military or paramilitary unit, e.g. to individual infantry soldiers, but also side arms carried by officers or other personnel."
Check out the list of "personal weapons." And NO, YOU cannot have an M136 either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_individual_weapons_of_the_U.S._Armed_Forces
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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NOW: government has fuking drones, tanks, fighter jets, stealth bombers, etc you moron.
EVERYTHING has changed.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Semantic twits are still semantic twits.
A soldier gets an AR as his personal weapon so civilians are entitled too. LOL. Good one, Ron.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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You are all hung up on the MILITARY classification of "personal weapon" as opposed to crew weapons. They classify grenade launcher, land mines, and anti-tank weapons as personal. You are even stoopider than I thought if you think civilians should have access to those.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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I'd give money to see Ron present his semantic twisting arguments to any court.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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the present interpretation of the 2nd Amendment will stand until we have a Sandy Hook mass murder on a weekly or even daily basis some day in the future
we're just getting warmed up now with only 200 million guns
only a mass public outcry, like in Britain and Australia, will change this
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