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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 15, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
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Yes. US law enforcement and military have attacked citizens for no reason in the past.
And what was the response when the citizens resisted?
Retreat?
Firm handshake and an apology?
Or increased aggression?
Or complete annihilation?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 15, 2013 - 07:36pm PT
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"Why would anyone need assualt rifles? To protect his community from tyrants."
WHO are these tyrants you speak of?
description please?
if you mean the US government, then are you too young to have heard of Drones?
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abrams
Sport climber
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:01pm PT
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supertopo has too many drugged out morons like jghedge posting idiocy.
sandy hook ct school is NOW protected by people with guns 24/7/365/forever.
and its safe because of the guns.
you anti-Bill-of-Rights gun grabbers have lost big time. Gun sales are off the charts. anyone without a gun for home defense will soon be posted on google earth for the criminals to exploit. sleep tight baby :}
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Gary
Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:07pm PT
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They will not all obey unlawful orders
Enough will.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
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sandy hook ct school is NOW protected by people with guns 24/7/365/forever.
and its safe because of the guns.
Yeah, Columbine showed us how well that works.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
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Wes, who exactly are you referring to?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
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Yeah, Columbine showed us how well that works.
correct, there were armed guards at that high school
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last week a student walked into a high school in Los Angeles with a shotgun and killed another student
the "armed guard" was AT HOME, didn't MAKE IT IN THAT DAY
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get real, a well planned school murder attack will take out an "armed guard" in a minute
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
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We'll just need 2 armed guards then... or maybe 5... or we could surround our schools with laser guided missile systems. Whatever we do, the only clear answer is MORE FIREPOWER!
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Gene
climber
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
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What is gun control when there are already 200,000,000 to over 300,000,000 firearms already out and about in the USA?
I'd say the cow has already left the barn. Elvis has left the building. Etc. Even if all guns were banned today, it'd take 100 years at a minimum to limit anyone's access to one. Whatcha gonna do?
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:26pm PT
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G, hedge wants to confiscate all of those weapons.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:27pm PT
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somehow, I think this is correct.
It's not so much that I'm in favor of it (which I am), but that I see it as part of an inevitable historical and political trend, one that becomes more inevitable as resistance to it increases
A generation ago, people smoked everywhere in NYC. Now, it's rare to see someone smoking. The pressure just ramps up and up on so many levels. Requires greater and greater commitment.
At some point, the gun owners will become pariahs in much of society. People will fear them because anytime they get a hair up their ass, the locality needs a front end loader and dump truck to haul away the body count. After a while, it gets old.
The problem for the NRA now, is they're on the side of the baby killers. There's only two sides here. No middle ground and they've chosen theirs.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:33pm PT
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Because pretty soon it's all going to end.
wrong on "pretty soon", and you know it, so why state what you know is not true?
that would pull you down onto the playing field of the ignorant Honey Boo Boo's
or maybe, Joe, you mean 50 years is "pretty soon"?
and even that is pure speculation
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:40pm PT
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EMP bombs, no electricity. Oh! No, now there is going to be a run on Faraday bags.
When will it end.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 15, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
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I'll give the 2nd amendment 20 more years at the most
damn Joe!
I wish there was a futures market to go heavily short against your above statement
You are letting your anger(contempt) overcome your own usual good reason
I won't be around in 20 years, otherwise I would bet you 100K right now you are wrong
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Gary
Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
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Jan 15, 2013 - 09:01pm PT
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The problem for the NRA now, is they're on the side of the baby killers.
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Jan 15, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
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Six times the rate, or six times the number total, or six times the number per country? Per country average, or per individual country?
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Jan 15, 2013 - 09:25pm PT
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What is happening in the US is that the population is now primarily from cities. City folk don't own guns, guns scare them. They vote to get rid of them. The criminals that primarily use guns in crimes also live in cities. In fact, it is in the cities that you get the stats of aggression, it is out of the cities that the defensive stats come from. So the city people see only the down side, and in a democracy, the majority vote will prevail. Guns will be restricted a lot.
It will take a while to measure the results, but the results don't really matter, just as long as you do SOMETHING! People will be happy that laws are made, and as long as they keep the right stories in the news, everyone will be happy happy happy!
Coz, I heard the number was 36 last year, I guess it went down. Crimpie just said they went up though for 2011 and 2012.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 15, 2013 - 09:27pm PT
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Wait!
How come Alaska has the highest rate of gun deaths and also has the most guns?
How come Massachusetts has the lowest rate of gun deaths and the toughest gun laws?
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