zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 24, 2012 - 06:21pm PT
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What is all this loose talk? You don't think surfers were not righteously offended when this appeared?
Heels and outfit OK+ to OK+++. Keep that boat out of the line-up.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 24, 2012 - 06:22pm PT
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Story on the NBC evening News actually recognized that the crowds have now become an additional objective hazard.
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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May 24, 2012 - 10:22pm PT
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Why is she still wearing stripper heels? What "athlete" does that?
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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May 24, 2012 - 10:42pm PT
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those heels look like a good way to break an ankle.
barefoot or sticky rubber!
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Bruce Kay
Gym climber
BC
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May 25, 2012 - 08:56am PT
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In this weeks Whistler Pique there's a pretty good article on climbing the big E. Its mostly a perspective from the guides or experienced mountaineers perspective, as opposed to the star struck neophyte. There was no mention whatsoever of either Strippers or stiletto heels and not a single picture of a bikini pulled tight so the journalistic credibility is suspect, but what do you expect from a canadian family rag?
Most notable is the 86 ascent of the west ridge route by Dwayne Congdon and Sharon Wood (without thong, heels or breast augmentation) on a four man team with no sherpa support. The route has not been climbed since.
http://www.piquenewsmagazine.com/whistler/to-the-top-of-the-world-and-back/Content?oid=2303571
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev.
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May 25, 2012 - 09:01am PT
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we have climbers giving up thier summit attempts to rescue freinds now,, and no doubt there are LOTS of pizzed clients that wont be getting a chance at anything besides slogging around in whats left of the snow. I wonder if the heli is going non-stop and if base camp is shrinking?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 25, 2012 - 09:26am PT
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Guide Companies that accept, allow and encourage inexperienced but wealthy trophy hunters, who cant put on their own crampons or handle disconnecting and reconnecting Jumars, to attempt Everest are not morally defensible.
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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May 25, 2012 - 09:35am PT
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Story on the NBC evening News actually recognized that the crowds have now become an additional objective hazard.
Here is the link to the NBC story that Piton Ron spoke about:
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/47558865/#47558865
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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May 25, 2012 - 10:15am PT
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Good piece Plaidman.
When overcrowding is killing more people than objective hazards, something has to change.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev.
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May 25, 2012 - 02:55pm PT
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Question: Didnt the guides very well know af the CROWDED conditions -knowing full well it would cut down not only the chances for a summit due to the normal woes but waiting in lines as well? By my rough figures -300 or so will be denied a chance to summit just due to the MASS of people there. Are they bidding at base camp- bribing the guides for "first crack" at any summit attempt by THIER group? I think the only smart guide thus far pulled outta camp a while ago..How booked up is next year? Worse?
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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May 25, 2012 - 07:07pm PT
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From the Ueli Steck interview at http://www.explorersweb.com/everest_k2/news.php?id=20842
Explorersweb: Are you going for a speed attempt?
Ueli: No. I'm happy to reach summit without O2. Speed ascents on this route are just not my thing. There are so many factors involved that are not really about climbing. What's the point of running up a fixed line? Waiting until sherpas have fixed the mountain, and then myself "the superman" running up the prepared pist? That's not climbing to me, just a marketing gimmick.
And from where do you start the clock? Basecamp? It takes 20 minutes for me to cross BC from one end to the other. Or do you start at the Khumbu Icefall. Where exactly does that begin? I took me two-and-a-half hours from BC to camp 2. I thought it good exercise, like going for a run on a trail.
And is it OK to have gear stashed? Seriously, I could leave my expedition boots at C2 so I could run from BC to C2 in running shoes. I could change into a light mountain boot up to the south col, where I'd put on my climbing boots and change to a down-suit I had left there.
Then of course I would need to have food and water in each camp. And have people and sleepingbags ready in case of emergency. How do you pass people, or deal with the problems that come up if you have to wait?
Explorersweb: Last week we interviewed Pato on the north side, he said he'll ask people to let him by on the ropes...
Ueli: That's exactly why I'm not going for a speed ascent. I don't like to disturb other people. If I can pass I will of course, but if it's not possible I'll have to wait. I don't have the right to push other people around just because I'm Ueli Steck...
Explorersweb: So what's your plan?
Ueli: Have fun climbing.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 25, 2012 - 07:18pm PT
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Maybe the guiding fee should double to include a rescue fee...? After all , rescuing someone at that altitude is more difficult than making them ascend a fixed rope via jumars...Wouldn't this eliminate some of the trophy hunting fodder..? RJ
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 25, 2012 - 07:33pm PT
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Probably not. But having to demonstrate competency at basic mountaineering skills like putting your own crampons on would.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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May 25, 2012 - 07:41pm PT
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Extra money would better be spent I think, by supplying more oxygen and
other supplies to begin with. From what I can see, the smart companies are
having their clients spend 24 hours at the south col resting, sleeping and
hydrating before the final push instead of rushing them from Camp 3 to
the top and all the way back down to Camp 2.
And as Philos says, making the clients demonstrate some compentency
to begin with.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev.
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May 25, 2012 - 08:25pm PT
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Congrats to Euli for a no ohwz climb! "Sleds Over Everest" toasts the feat!!
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Malemute
Ice climber
the ghost
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May 25, 2012 - 08:37pm PT
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no ohwz??
Jeez Ron, get with the program. O is what the noobs say.
Sleds over Everest should demonstrate their sophistikation by saying OXY.
;-)
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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May 25, 2012 - 08:39pm PT
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somebody tell all those wealthy Everest tourists to spend their money on space tourism instead
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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May 25, 2012 - 08:42pm PT
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Is the mountain stable enough for a full on tunnel and elevator system?
Sleds Over Everest are currently trying to do active research to find out
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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May 26, 2012 - 02:39am PT
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I just knew that climbing that mountain wasn't your real goal!
Now I understand. So who's paying for this expedition?
With lobster and all, I suspect it's the same people who
sponsored those other expeditions in the Himalayas
in the 60's.
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